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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: "Horia Geantă" <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Andrei Botila (OSS)" <andrei.botila@oss.nxp.com>,
	Aymen Sghaier <aymen.sghaier@nxp.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/9] crypto: caam/jr - add fallback for XTS with more than 8B IV
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:51:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXHxzX25e0ex4HiyeXyxZhkrWBrewF5s8ZqiSk5Cd2DXVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89b9c29d-afb1-0082-66f6-8bb930710884@nxp.com>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 15:45, Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/15/2020 1:26 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:02, Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/14/2020 9:20 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/14/2020 7:28 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 19:24, Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/9/2020 1:10 AM, Herbert Xu wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 01:35:04PM +0300, Horia Geantă wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just go with the get_unaligned unconditionally.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Won't this lead to sub-optimal code for ARMv7
> >>>>>>>> in case the IV is aligned?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If this should be optimised in ARMv7 then that should be done
> >>>>>>> in get_unaligned itself and not open-coded.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am not sure what's wrong with avoiding using the unaligned accessors
> >>>>>> in case data is aligned.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Documentation/core-api/unaligned-memory-access.rst clearly states:
> >>>>>> These macros work for memory accesses of any length (not just 32 bits as
> >>>>>> in the examples above). Be aware that when compared to standard access of
> >>>>>> aligned memory, using these macros to access unaligned memory can be costly in
> >>>>>> terms of performance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So IMO it makes sense to use get_unaligned() only when needed.
> >>>>>> There are several cases of users doing this, e.g. siphash.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For ARMv7 code, using the unaligned accessors unconditionally is fine,
> >>>>> and it will not affect performance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In general, when CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS is defined,
> >>>>> you can use the unaligned accessors. If it is not, it helps to have
> >>>>> different code paths.
> >>>>>
> >>>> arch/arm/include/asm/unaligned.h doesn't make use of
> >>>> linux/unaligned/access_ok.h, even if CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
> >>>> is set.
> >>>>
> >>>> I understand the comment in the file, however using get_unaligned()
> >>>> unconditionally takes away the opportunity to generate optimized code
> >>>> (using ldrd/ldm) when data is aligned.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> But the minimal optimization that is possible here (one ldrd/ldm
> >>> instruction vs two ldr instructions) is defeated by the fact that you
> >>> are using a conditional branch to select between the two. And this is
> >>> not even a hot path to begin with,
> >>>
> >> This is actually on the hot path (encrypt/decrypt callbacks),
> >> but you're probably right that the conditional branching is going to offset
> >> the optimized code.
> >>
> >
> > This is called once per XTS request, right? And you are saying the
> > extra cycle makes a difference?
> >
> Yes, once per request and no, not super-important.
>
> >> To avoid branching, code could be rewritten as:
> >>
> >> #ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
> >>         size = *(u64 *)(req->iv + (ivsize / 2));
> >> #else
> >>         size = get_unaligned((u64 *)(req->iv + (ivsize / 2)));
> >> #endif
> >>
> >> however in this case ARMv7 would suffer since
> >> CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS=y and
> >> ldrd/ldm for accesses not word-aligned are inefficient - lead to traps.
> >>
> >
> > CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS means 'just use the unaligned
> > accessors as they are basically free'. Casting a potentially
> > misaligned u8* to a u64* is not permitted by the C standard.
> >
> Seems that I misunderstood CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS.
>

You're not the only one :-) I have been intending to get the
discussion going with the networking folks, who rely heavily on this
as well.

> Looking at its usage, e.g. ether_addr_equal() or __crypto_memneq_*(),
> I see similar casts of pointers possibly misaligned.
>

Yes, that is the confusion. CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
should indicate whether using the unaligned accessors is fine in all
cases, or whether you should find other ways to load the data more
efficiently (compare NET_IP_ALIGN, which shifts the entire IP header
so the 32-bit address field appear aligned in memory)

CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS does *not* mean that you can
simply cast any pointer to any type and dereference it, but the
meaning appears to have shifted this way over the years (and the
Documentation/ was even updated to this effect)

Pre-v6 ARM (and MIPS as well, IIRC) require byte sized accesses and
shift/or sequences to do unaligned accesses, whereas v6 and up simply
allows ldr from a misaligned address. So in the former case, you could
use cra_alignmask to align the data in memory, while the latter case
can ignore it. (arch/arm/crypto/aes-cipher-glue.c uses this as well)

> >> Would it be ok to use:
> >> #if defined(CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS) && !defined(CONFIG_ARM)
> >> to workaround the ARMv7 inconsistency?
> >>
> >
> > No, please just use the get_unaligned() accessor.
> >
> Ok.
>
> Thanks,
> Horia

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-15 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-06 16:35 [PATCH RESEND 0/9] crypto: caam - xts(aes) updates Andrei Botila
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/9] crypto: caam/jr - add fallback for XTS with more than 8B IV Andrei Botila
2020-08-11 14:30   ` Horia Geantă
2020-08-21  3:47     ` Herbert Xu
2020-08-21 12:02       ` Horia Geantă
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-21  3:46   ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-08 10:35     ` Horia Geantă
2020-09-08 22:10       ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-14 16:23         ` Horia Geantă
2020-09-14 16:28           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-14 17:12             ` Horia Geantă
2020-09-14 18:20               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15 10:02                 ` Horia Geantă
2020-09-15 10:26                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15 12:44                     ` Horia Geantă
2020-09-15 12:51                       ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 2/9] crypto: caam/qi " Andrei Botila
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 3/9] crypto: caam/qi2 " Andrei Botila
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 4/9] crypto: caam/jr - add support for more XTS key lengths Andrei Botila
2020-08-11 14:36   ` Horia Geantă
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 5/9] crypto: caam/qi " Andrei Botila
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 6/9] crypto: caam/qi2 " Andrei Botila
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 7/9] crypto: caam/jr - add support for XTS with 16B IV Andrei Botila
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 8/9] crypto: caam/qi " Andrei Botila
2020-08-06 16:35 ` [PATCH RESEND 9/9] crypto: caam/qi2 " Andrei Botila

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