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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux/m68k" <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/10] drm/fourcc: Add DRM_FORMAT_C[124]
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:01:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVj8wxAVbcov1wFsgt_knMkcySBH8nMoKjyr=G+mLQmjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220314170539.17400f93@eldfell>

Hi Pekka,

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 4:05 PM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 14:30:18 +0100
> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:53 PM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > > Introduce fourcc codes for color-indexed frame buffer formats with two,
> > > four, and sixteen colors, and provide a mapping from bit per pixel and
> > > depth to fourcc codes.
> > >
> > > As the number of bits per pixel is less than eight, these rely on proper
> > > block handling for the calculation of bits per pixel and pitch.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
> >
> > > --- a/include/uapi/drm/drm_fourcc.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/drm_fourcc.h
> > > @@ -99,7 +99,10 @@ extern "C" {
> > >  #define DRM_FORMAT_INVALID     0
> > >
> > >  /* color index */
> > > -#define DRM_FORMAT_C8          fourcc_code('C', '8', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] C */
> > > +#define DRM_FORMAT_C1          fourcc_code('C', '1', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] C0:C1:C2:C3:C4:C5:C6:C7 1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1 eight pixels/byte */
> > > +#define DRM_FORMAT_C2          fourcc_code('C', '2', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] C0:C1:C2:C3 2:2:2:2 four pixels/byte */
> > > +#define DRM_FORMAT_C4          fourcc_code('C', '4', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] C0:C1 4:4 two pixels/byte */
> > > +#define DRM_FORMAT_C8          fourcc_code('C', '8', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] C 8 one pixel/byte */
> > >
> > >  /* 8 bpp Red */
> > >  #define DRM_FORMAT_R8          fourcc_code('R', '8', ' ', ' ') /* [7:0] R */
> >
> > After replying to Ilia's comment[1], I realized the CFB drawing
> > operations use native byte and bit ordering, unless
> > FBINFO_FOREIGN_ENDIAN is set.
> > While Amiga, Atari, and Sun-3 use big-endian bit ordering,
> > e.g. Acorn VIDC[2] uses little endian, and SH7760[3] is configurable
> > (sh7760fb configures ordering to match host order).
> > BTW, ssd130{7fb,x}_update_rect() both assume little-endian, so I
> > guess they are broken on big-endian.
> > Fbtest uses big-endian bit ordering, so < 8 bpp is probably broken
> > on little-endian.
> >
> > Hence the above should become:
> >
> >     #define DRM_FORMAT_C1          fourcc_code('C', '1', ' ', ' ') /*
> > [7:0] C7:C6:C5:C4:C3:C2:C1:C0 1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1 eight pixels/byte */
> >     #define DRM_FORMAT_C2          fourcc_code('C', '2', ' ', ' ') /*
> > [7:0] C3:C2:C1:C0 2:2:2:2 four pixels/byte */
> >     #define DRM_FORMAT_C4          fourcc_code('C', '4', ' ', ' ') /*
> > [7:0] C1:C0 4:4 two pixels/byte */
> >
> > The same changes should be made for DRM_FORMAT_[RD][124].
> >
> > The fbdev emulation code should gain support for these with and without
> > DRM_FORMAT_BIG_ENDIAN, the latter perhaps only on big-endian platforms?
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAKb7UvgEdm9U=+RyRwL0TGRfA_Qc7NbhCWoZOft2DKdXggtKYw@mail.gmail.com/
> > [2] See p.30 of the VIDC datasheet
> >     http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/docs/Acorn/Misc/Acorn_VIDC_Datasheet.pdf
> > [3] See p.1178 of the SH7660 datasheet
> >     https://datasheet.octopart.com/HD6417760BL200AV-Renesas-datasheet-14105759.pdf
>
> why would CPU endianess affect the order of bits in a byte?

It doesn't, but see below.

> Do you mean that bit 0 one machine is (1 << 0), and on another machine
> bit 0 is (1 << 7)?

No, I mean that in case of multiple pixels per byte, the display
hardware pumps out pixels to the CRTC starting from either the MSB
or the LSB of the first display byte.  Which order depends on the
display hardware, not on the CPU.

> In C, we have only one way to address bits of a byte and that is with
> arithmetic. You cannot take the address of a bit any other way, can you?
>
> Can we standardise on "bit n of a byte is addressed as (1 << n)"?

BIT(n) in Linux works the same for little- and big-endian CPUs.
But display hardware may use a different bit order.

> I don't mind in which order the pixels are inside a byte, as long as it
> doesn't change by CPU endianess. If you need both directions, then use
> two different drm_fourcc codes that do not change their meaning by CPU
> endianess. Just like we have XRGB and BGRX formats.

OK.

> I would not like to see DRM_FORMAT_BIG_ENDIAN used for this, it would
> conflate a whole new concept into the mess that is little- vs.
> big-endian.

OK.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-14 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-07 20:52 [PATCH v2 00/10] drm: Add support for low-color frame buffer formats Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] drm/fourcc: Add drm_format_info_bpp() helper Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 12:46   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] drm/fourcc: Add drm_format_info.is_color_indexed flag Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 12:50   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] drm/client: Use actual bpp when allocating frame buffers Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 12:51   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] drm/framebuffer: Use actual bpp for DRM_IOCTL_MODE_GETFB Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 12:53   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] drm/fourcc: Add DRM_FORMAT_C[124] Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-08  9:04   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-09 12:57   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-14 13:30   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-14 15:05     ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-14 19:01       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-03-14 22:15         ` Finn Thain
2022-03-15  7:32           ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-15  7:51             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-15  7:52               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-15  8:45               ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-15  8:57                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-15 10:48                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] drm/fb-helper: Add support for DRM_FORMAT_C[124] Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 13:10   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-09 13:14     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 07/10] drm/gem-fb-helper: Use actual bpp for size calculations Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 13:16   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 08/10] drm/fourcc: Document that single-channel "red" can be any color Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-08  9:06   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-09 13:33   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 09/10] drm/fourcc: Add DRM_FORMAT_R[124] Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 13:39   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-07 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 10/10] drm/fourcc: Add DRM_FORMAT_D[1248] Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-09 13:41   ` Javier Martinez Canillas

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