From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751311AbeECIlZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 May 2018 04:41:25 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f68.google.com ([209.85.213.68]:38173 "EHLO mail-vk0-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751132AbeECIlU (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 May 2018 04:41:20 -0400 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpC3CODpYdc9BJLP9Q69unSzTRQNTa/QdLgjtTRmsY4s2ElmDA3E7MAkTa1vrPRBssbgOHie80RJwtz8VJ2kbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1e0bc2e2-a0d8-16b7-b6a4-cf97ecd99cef@infradead.org> References: <20180430124135.0cce92e3@gandalf.local.home> <1e0bc2e2-a0d8-16b7-b6a4-cf97ecd99cef@infradead.org> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 10:41:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lWeT19IkRcF57JFka-10LKUh3g4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hashed pointer issues To: Randy Dunlap Cc: Linus Torvalds , Steven Rostedt , Kees Cook , Anna-Maria Gleixner , Linux Kernel Mailing List , tcharding Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On 04/30/2018 10:01 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:57 AM Linus Torvalds < >> torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote: >> >>> Although in *practice* we'd have tons of entropy on any modern development >>> CPU too, since any new hardware will have the hardware random number >>> generation. Some overly cautious person might not trust it, of course. >> >> In fact, maybe that's the right policy. Avoid a boot-time parameter by just >> saying >> >> "if you have hardware random number generation, we can fill entropy >> immediately" >> >> No kernel command line needed in practice any more. That's assuming any >> kernel developer will have an IvyBridge or newer. > > any paid kernel developer :) Developing for x86... It takes several seconds to have collected sufficient entropy on e.g. some ARM/ARM64 systems. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds