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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Liu Ying <victor.liu@nxp.com>
Cc: "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
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	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] drivers: bus: simple-pm-bus: Use clocks
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:58:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX0pHm4QjHNvwADeJ3ngxcHv0k39hdDbZa+xUATAb2=9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9349e633a64a2275857b2c08731e40721e5af82b.camel@nxp.com>

Hi Liu,

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:13 AM Liu Ying <victor.liu@nxp.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 14:34 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 8:10 AM Liu Ying <victor.liu@nxp.com> wrote:
> > > Simple Power-Managed bus controller may need functional clock(s)
> > > to be enabled before child devices connected to the bus can be
> > > accessed.  Get the clock(s) as a bulk and enable/disable the
> > > clock(s) when the bus is being power managed.
> > >
> > > One example is that Freescale i.MX8qxp pixel link MSI bus
> > > controller
> > > needs MSI clock and AHB clock to be enabled before accessing child
> > > devices.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Liu Ying <victor.liu@nxp.com>
> >
> > Thanks for your patch!
>
> Thanks for the review.
>
> >
> > > --- a/drivers/bus/simple-pm-bus.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/bus/simple-pm-bus.c
> > > @@ -8,11 +8,17 @@
> > >   * for more details.
> > >   */
> > >
> > > +#include <linux/clk.h>
> > >  #include <linux/module.h>
> > >  #include <linux/of_platform.h>
> > >  #include <linux/platform_device.h>
> > >  #include <linux/pm_runtime.h>
> > >
> > > +struct simple_pm_bus {
> > > +       struct clk_bulk_data *clks;
> > > +       int num_clks;
> > > +};
> > > +
> > >  static const struct of_device_id simple_pm_bus_child_matches[] = {
> > >         { .compatible = "simple-mfd", },
> > >         {}
> > > @@ -24,6 +30,7 @@ static int simple_pm_bus_probe(struct
> > > platform_device *pdev)
> > >         const struct of_dev_auxdata *lookup =
> > > dev_get_platdata(dev);
> > >         struct device_node *np = dev->of_node;
> > >         const struct of_device_id *match;
> > > +       struct simple_pm_bus *bus;
> > >
> > >         /*
> > >          * Allow user to use driver_override to bind this driver to
> > > a
> > > @@ -49,6 +56,16 @@ static int simple_pm_bus_probe(struct
> > > platform_device *pdev)
> > >                         return -ENODEV;
> > >         }
> > >
> > > +       bus = devm_kzalloc(&pdev->dev, sizeof(*bus), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > +       if (!bus)
> > > +               return -ENOMEM;
> > > +
> > > +       bus->num_clks = devm_clk_bulk_get_all(&pdev->dev, &bus-
> > > > clks);
> > >
> > > +       if (bus->num_clks < 0)
> > > +               return dev_err_probe(&pdev->dev, bus->num_clks,
> > > "failed to get clocks\n");
> > > +
> > > +       dev_set_drvdata(&pdev->dev, bus);
> > > +
> > >         dev_dbg(&pdev->dev, "%s\n", __func__);
> > >
> > >         pm_runtime_enable(&pdev->dev);
> >
> > While I agree this patch has merits on its own[*], I am wondering
> > if you really need it for your use case.
> >
> > In "[PATCH v3 3/3] dt-bindings: bus: Add Freescale i.MX8qxp pixel
> > link MSI bus binding", I see your bus has both "clocks" and
> > "power-domains" properties.  Perhaps your PM Domain can be a clock
> > domain, too (i.e. setting GENPD_FLAG_PM_CLK and providing
> > generic_pm_domain.{at,de}tach_dev() callbacks), thus handing clock
> > handling over to Runtime PM?
>
> It looks like most(if not all) PM domains can be clock domains with
> GENPD_FLAG_PM_CLK and generic_pm_domain.{at,de}tach_dev() callbacks
> set. So, technically, my PM domain(scu-pd.c) can be a clock domain with
> all those set and a special check for "simple-pm-bus" in the
> {at,de}tach_dev callbacks.  But, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to
> do that. How do we determine clocks should be managed by PM domains or
> device drivers? Technically, both would work...

It depends on the hardware topology: is there really a clock domain
(i.e. lots of consumer modules are clocked by a single clock
 controller and can be power-managed that way), or is it just a
 coincidence that your bus has clocks.

E.g. drivers/clk/renesas/renesas-cpg-mssr.c:cpg_mssr_attach_dev()
looks for clocks from the right clock provider and of the right type.

> > [*] The simple-pm-bus DT bindings state:
> >
> >       clocks: true
> >         # Functional clocks
> >         # Required if power-domains is absent, optional otherwise
> >
> >       power-domains:
> >         # Required if clocks is absent, optional otherwise
> >         minItems: 1
> >
> > While "power-domains" (+ "clocks" in case of a clock domain) is
> > handled through Runtime PM, the current driver indeed does not handle
> > "clocks" in the absence of the "power-domains" property.  It looks
>
> Right.
>
> > like all existing users that use "clocks" rely on the PM Domain being
> > a clock domain.
>
> "renesas,bsc" seems to be one of the users.

Yes it is. And it doesn't need a special driver, as it just relies
on Runtime PM controlling both the power area and the clocks through
the PM Domain.

> > With your patch, the clocks might be controlled twice: once
> > explicitly,
> > through clk_bulk_*(), and a second time implicitly, through Runtime
> > PM.
> > While this works fine to do clock enable counters, it looks
> > suboptimal
> > to me.  This could be avoided by making the new explicit clock code
> > depend on the absence of the "power-domains" property, but that would
> > break users that have both a PM Domain which is not a clock domain,
> > and clocks.  So we may have no other option.
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure if there are really users that have both a PM domain
> which is not a clock domain and clocks, given that a PM domain can sort
> of always be a clock domain by setting that GENPD flag and those
> callbacks.  So, what do you suggest? Keep the patch as-is? Or, maybe,
> make my PM domain additionally be a clock domain?

It depends. Is "dc0_disp_ctrl_link_mst0_lpcg" a clock controller that
controls the clock inputs to multiple modules? Based on the name, it
seems to be used only for display-related clocks, while "pd" controls
power to various modules, not limited to display?
Hence you may want to keep your patch as-is.

Renesas R-Car SoCs have separate power area and clock controllers,
too, but they apply to most/all devices.  Hence we moduled this as
a single PM Domain (also because "power-domains" (used to) support
only a single provider), through a close integration of the power
area and clock drivers.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-12  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-04  6:11 [PATCH v3 0/3] drivers: bus: Add Freescale i.MX8qxp pixel link MSI bus support Liu Ying
2022-08-04  6:11 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] drivers: bus: simple-pm-bus: Populate simple MFD child devices Liu Ying
2022-08-04 12:18   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-04 18:26     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-08-05 10:06       ` Liu Ying
2022-08-05 17:55         ` Saravana Kannan
2022-08-06 16:23           ` Liu Ying
2022-08-04  6:11 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] drivers: bus: simple-pm-bus: Use clocks Liu Ying
2022-08-11 12:34   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-12  8:13     ` Liu Ying
2022-08-12  8:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-08-12  9:42         ` Liu Ying
2022-08-12  9:49   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-12 12:25     ` Liu Ying
2022-08-04  6:11 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] dt-bindings: bus: Add Freescale i.MX8qxp pixel link MSI bus binding Liu Ying
2022-08-04 11:17   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-05 10:18     ` Liu Ying

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