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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
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	Masanari Iida <standby24x7@gmail.com>,
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	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 2/4] crypto: Introduce CRYPTO_ALG_BULK flag
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:38:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMz4ku+s-6MQWHhnaau9fK9ssYJNpS9UFvgASoacP0e3vj-zzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160615064939.GA14227@gondor.apana.org.au>

On 15 June 2016 at 14:49, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 02:27:04PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>
>> After some investigation, I still think we should divide the bulk
>> request from dm-crypt into small request (each one is 512bytes) if
>> this algorithm is not support bulk mode (like CBC). We have talked
>> with dm-crypt
>> maintainers why dm-crypt always use 512 bytes as one request size in
>> below thread, could you please check it?
>> http://www.kernelhub.org/?p=2&msg=907022
>
> That link only points to an email about an oops.

Ah, sorry. Would you check this thread?
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1601.1/03829.html

>
> Diggin through that thread, the only objection I have seen is about
> the fact that you have to generate a fresh IV for each sector, which
> is precisely what I'm suggesting that you do.
>
> IOW, implement the IV generators in the crypto API, and then you can
> easily generate a new IV (if necessary) for each sector.
>
>> That means if we move the IV handling into crypto API, we still can
>> not use bulk interface for all algorithm, for example we still need to
>> read/write with 512 bytes for CBC, you can't use 4k or more block on
>> CBC (and most other encryption modes). If only a part of 4k block is
>> written (and then system crash happens), CBC would corrupt the block
>> completely. It means if we map one whole bio with bulk interface in
>> dm-crypt, we need to divide into every 512 bytes requests in crypto
>> layer. So I don't think we can handle every algorithm with bulk
>> interface just moving the IV handling into crypto API. Thanks.
>
> Of course you would do CBC in 512-byte blocks, but my point is that
> you should do this in a crypto API algorithm, rather than dm-crypt
> as we do now.  Once you implement that then dm-crypt can treat
> every algorithm as if they supported bulk processing.

But that means we should divide the bulk request into 512-byte size
requests and break up the mapped sg table for each request. Another
hand we should allocate memory for each request in crypto layer, which
dm-crypt have supplied one high efficiency way. I think these are
really top level how to use the crypro APIs, does that need to move
into crypto laryer? Thanks.

>
> Cheers,
> --
> Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
> PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt



-- 
Baolin.wang
Best Regards

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07 12:17 [RFC v4 0/4] Introduce the bulk mode method when sending request to crypto layer Baolin Wang
2016-06-07 12:17 ` [RFC v4 1/4] block: Introduce blk_bio_map_sg() to map one bio Baolin Wang
2016-06-07 12:17 ` [RFC v4 2/4] crypto: Introduce CRYPTO_ALG_BULK flag Baolin Wang
2016-06-07 14:16   ` Herbert Xu
2016-06-08  2:00     ` Baolin Wang
2016-06-15  6:27       ` Baolin Wang
2016-06-15  6:49         ` Herbert Xu
2016-06-15  7:38           ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2016-06-15  7:39             ` Herbert Xu
2016-06-15  8:48               ` Baolin Wang
2016-06-07 12:17 ` [RFC v4 3/4] md: dm-crypt: Introduce the bulk mode method when sending request Baolin Wang
2016-06-07 12:17 ` [RFC v4 4/4] crypto: Add the CRYPTO_ALG_BULK flag for ecb(aes) cipher Baolin Wang

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