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From: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
	"Connor O'Brien" <connoro@google.com>,
	Rick Yiu <rickyiu@google.com>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	Chris Redpath <chris.redpath@arm.com>,
	Abhijeet Dharmapurikar <adharmap@quicinc.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	kernel-team@android.com, "J . Avila" <elavila@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] softirq: defer softirq processing to ksoftirqd if CPU is busy with RT
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 17:04:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANDhNCo6M8NdLemjhA2sQ941agU+LQHxhRKAVMvr-qg9mQV51Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221017144455.ylmwlgrdoj3tdvbp@wubuntu>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:45 AM Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com> wrote:
> This time I paid attention to the average as the best case number for vanilla
> kernel is better:
>
>                    |       vanilla      | with softirq patches v4  |
> -------------------|--------------------|--------------------------|
>                    |  #1  |  #2  |  #3  |   #1   |   #2   |   #3   |
> -------------------|------|------|------|--------|--------|--------|
> t0 avg delay (us)  |31.59 |22.94 |26.50 | 31.81  | 33.57  | 34.90  |
> t1 avg delay (us)  |16.85 |16.32 |37.16 | 29.05  | 30.51  | 31.65  |
> t2 avg delay (us)  |25.34 |32.12 |17.40 | 26.76  | 28.28  | 28.56  |
>
> It shows that we largely hover around 30us with the patches compared to 16-26us
> being more prevalent for vanilla kernels.
>
> I am not sure I can draw a concrete conclusion from these numbers. It seems
> I need to run longer than 4 hours to hit the worst case scenario every run on
> the vanilla kernel. There's an indication that the worst case scenario is
> harder to hit, and it looks there's a hit on the average delay.

Thanks so much for running these tests and capturing these detailed numbers!

I'll have to look further into the average case going up here.

> I'm losing access to this system from today. I think I'll wait for more
> feedback on this RFC; and do another round of testing for longer periods of
> time once there's clearer sense this is indeed the direction we'll be going
> for.

Do you mind sending me the script you used to run the test, and I'll
try to reproduce on some x86 hardware locally?

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-18  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-03 23:20 [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Softirq -rt Optimizations John Stultz
2022-10-03 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] softirq: Add generic accessor to percpu softirq_pending data John Stultz
2022-10-03 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] sched: Avoid placing RT threads on cores handling long softirqs John Stultz
     [not found]   ` <20221004013611.1822-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-04  2:29     ` John Stultz
     [not found]       ` <20221005002149.1876-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-05  1:13         ` John Stultz
     [not found]         ` <20221005060155.1571-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-10 15:42           ` Qais Yousef
     [not found]             ` <20221011111846.284-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-12 14:10               ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-17 12:40   ` [PATCH RFC " Alexander Gordeev
2022-10-18  3:42     ` John Stultz
2022-10-18  3:59       ` John Stultz
2022-10-18  5:32       ` John Stultz
2022-10-19  9:11       ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-10-19 22:09         ` John Stultz
2022-10-20  0:15           ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-20 12:47           ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-10-22 18:34             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-23  7:45               ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-11-15  7:08                 ` John Stultz
2022-11-15 12:55                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-10-19 11:23       ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-22 18:28   ` [RFC PATCH " Joel Fernandes
2022-11-15 21:36     ` John Stultz
2022-10-03 23:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] softirq: defer softirq processing to ksoftirqd if CPU is busy with RT John Stultz
2022-10-04 10:45   ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:19     ` John Stultz
2022-10-10 16:09   ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-17 14:44     ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-18  0:04       ` John Stultz [this message]
2022-10-19 11:01         ` Qais Yousef

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