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From: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:55:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANRm+CwtHBOVWFcn+6Z3Ds7dEcNL2JP+b6hLRS=oeUW98A24MQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190803202058.GA9316@amt.cnet>

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 04:21, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 06:54:49PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 01/08/19 18:51, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On 8/1/2019 9:06 AM, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > >> From: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > >>
> > >> The downside of guest side polling is that polling is performed even
> > >> with other runnable tasks in the host. However, even if poll in kvm
> > >> can aware whether or not other runnable tasks in the same pCPU, it
> > >> can still incur extra overhead in over-subscribe scenario. Now we can
> > >> just enable guest polling when dedicated pCPUs are available.
> > >>
> > >> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > >> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > Paolo, Marcelo, any comments?
> >
> > Yes, it's a good idea.
> >
> > Acked-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> >
> > Paolo
>

Hi Marcelo,

Sorry for the late response.

> I think KVM_HINTS_REALTIME is being abused somewhat.
> It has no clear meaning and used in different locations
> for different purposes.

================== ============ =================================
KVM_HINTS_REALTIME 0                      guest checks this feature bit to

determine that vCPUs are never

preempted for an unlimited time

allowing optimizations
================== ============ =================================

Now it disables pv queued spinlock, pv tlb shootdown, pv sched yield
which are not expected present in vCPUs are never preempted for an
unlimited time scenario.

>
> For example, i think that using pv queued spinlocks and
> haltpoll is a desired scenario, which the patch below disallows.

So even if dedicated pCPU is available, pv queued spinlocks should
still be chose if something like vhost-kthreads are used instead of
DPDK/vhost-user. kvm adaptive halt-polling will compete with
vhost-kthreads, however, poll in guest unaware other runnable tasks in
the host which will defeat vhost-kthreads.

Regards,
Wanpeng Li

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-13  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-01  7:06 [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available Wanpeng Li
2019-08-01 16:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 16:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-03 20:21     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-13  0:55       ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2019-08-13  7:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-26 20:40         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-27  0:43           ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28  8:35             ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28  8:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-28  8:48                 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28 14:39                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 23:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-29 12:04                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 12:16                       ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-29 12:53                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 14:39                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 14:48             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 14:52               ` Marcelo Tosatti

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