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From: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
To: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] x86/idle: add halt poll support
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:35:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANRm+CzYm-_tzK+zLU8n5BCRx8u=80ECo9-Jhmwa9UHLTQVAzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3e1866d-7fb2-9f81-93e7-6b9ff6609e13@gmail.com>

2017-06-23 12:08 GMT+08:00 Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>:
> On 2017/6/22 19:50, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>>
>> 2017-06-22 19:22 GMT+08:00 root <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> From: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Some latency-intensive workload will see obviously performance
>>> drop when running inside VM. The main reason is that the overhead
>>> is amplified when running inside VM. The most cost i have seen is
>>> inside idle path.
>>> This patch introduces a new mechanism to poll for a while before
>>> entering idle state. If schedule is needed during poll, then we
>>> don't need to goes through the heavy overhead path.
>>>
>>> Here is the data i get when running benchmark contextswitch
>>> (https://github.com/tsuna/contextswitch)
>>> before patch:
>>> 2000000 process context switches in 4822613801ns (2411.3ns/ctxsw)
>>> after patch:
>>> 2000000 process context switches in 3584098241ns (1792.0ns/ctxsw)
>>
>>
>> If you test this after disabling the adaptive halt-polling in kvm?
>> What's the performance data of w/ this patchset and w/o the adaptive
>> halt-polling in kvm, and w/o this patchset and w/ the adaptive
>> halt-polling in kvm? In addition, both linux and windows guests can
>> get benefit as we have already done this in kvm.
>
>
> I will provide more data in next version. But it doesn't conflict with

Another case I can think of is w/ both this patchset and the adaptive
halt-polling in kvm.

> current halt polling inside kvm. This is just another enhancement.

I didn't look close to the patchset, however, maybe there is another
poll in the kvm part again sometimes if you fails the poll in the
guest. In addition, the adaptive halt-polling in kvm has performance
penalty when the pCPU is heavily overcommitted though there is a
single_task_running() in my testing, it is hard to accurately aware
whether there are other tasks waiting on the pCPU in the guest which
will make it worser. Depending on vcpu_is_preempted() or steal time
maybe not accurately or directly.

So I'm not sure how much sense it makes by adaptive halt-polling in
both guest and kvm. I prefer to just keep adaptive halt-polling in
kvm(then both linux/windows or other guests can get benefit) and avoid
to churn the core x86 path.

Regards,
Wanpeng Li

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 11:22 [PATCH 0/2] x86/idle: add halt poll support root
2017-06-22 11:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/idle: add halt poll for halt idle root
2017-06-22 14:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-23  4:05     ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-16  4:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-08-17  7:29     ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-22 11:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/idle: use dynamic halt poll root
2017-06-22 11:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-23  3:58     ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-27 11:22       ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-27 12:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-27 12:23           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-27 12:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-27 13:40               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-06-27 13:56                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-27 14:22                   ` Radim Krčmář
2017-06-27 14:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-03  9:28                     ` Yang Zhang
2017-07-03 10:06                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-04  2:19                         ` Yang Zhang
2017-07-04 14:13                       ` Radim Krčmář
2017-07-04 14:50                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-13 11:49                         ` Yang Zhang
2017-07-14  9:37                           ` Alexander Graf
2017-07-17  9:26                             ` Yang Zhang
2017-07-17  9:54                               ` Alexander Graf
2017-07-17 12:50                                 ` Yang Zhang
2017-07-04 22:28                       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-22 14:32   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-23  4:04     ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-22 22:46   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-22 11:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] x86/idle: add halt poll support Yang Zhang
2017-06-22 11:50 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-23  4:08   ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-23  4:35     ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2017-06-23  6:49       ` Yang Zhang
2017-06-27 14:00         ` Radim Krčmář

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