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From: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eli Friedman <efriedma@codeaurora.org>,
	Christopher Li <sparse@chrisli.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] include/linux/compiler*.h: Use feature checking instead of version checks for attributes
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:33:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANiq72=0SPHyjQjKXyv1wojFG7R54Y3k7eqbk_66cOqrc-R0bw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdmSOGRDaCUgsEnEd=uyf83FzrRhJt-E3VnzX4FzDwPFWw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nick,

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:10 AM Miguel Ojeda
> <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I addressed that in the email I sent afterwards:
>>
>> """
>> Note that:
>>   - assume_aligned came with gcc 4.9
>>   - no_sanitize_address came with gcc 4.8
>>
>> So if we feel it is important to have them there (before gcc 5), we
>> would need here a quick version check here.
>> """
>>
>> The idea is that, in the future, whenever gcc 5 or later is the
>> minimum version, we just get rid of the #ifdef block without touching
>> the rest of the code :-)
>
> So if __has_attribute came with gcc 5, then that means that this patch
> will break assume_aligned for gcc-4.9 users and no_sanitize_address
> for gcc-4.8 and gcc-4.9 users?  The slab allocator uses
> assume_aligned, and no_sanitize_address for CONFIG_KASAN.  Should this
> patch ever come back through stable, Android and ChromeOS
> gcc-4.9/KASAN builds will break.
>

Indeed, KASAN requires it:

          This is strictly a debugging feature and it requires a gcc version
          of 4.9.2 or later. Detection of out of bounds accesses to stack or
          global variables requires gcc 5.0 or later.

So we should just support it. However, __no_sanitize_address is only
used when CONFIG_KASAN is enabled (to define __no_kasan_or_inline). So
I would say it is an attribute for a particular CONFIG (like those of
sparse). Therefore, I think we should simply remove
__no_sanitize_address for general use (let's see how it looks).

For __assume_aligned, it is "only" an optimization, but I think it is
a general one, so we should keep it in attributes.h; I will simply add
the gcc 4.9 support knowledge.

On that topic: actually, some of the attributes that we have that are
"required" are not really "required" in the strict sense: we could
test for them; but I wanted to minimize the amount of noise for gcc <
5 since we have to manually write the support table (and anyway most
compilers support them). Whenever we are past gcc 5 in a few years, we
could actually test for the non-strictly-required attribute if we want
to be extra nice to new compilers :-)

> I don't think we should leave that for a follow up; I would like to
> see it as part of this patch.  It's ok to have explicit version checks
> for those 2 attributes since it's not possible to feature detect them
> for the versions of gcc that we support in this code base.  I think
> you should add them in a v2 of this patch.  Then we can point to this
> commit as the *shining example* of how to do proper feature detection,
> falling back to version checks only as a last resort.

Thanks for the kind words!

I also read your other comments in the previous email -- no comments
on those. I will prepare v2.

Cheers,
Miguel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-28 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-26 17:57 [PATCH] include/linux/compiler*.h: Use feature checking instead of version checks for attributes Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-26 18:30 ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-26 18:50 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-27 12:33   ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-27 17:43 ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-27 17:48   ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-28 15:10     ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-28 17:05       ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-28 20:33         ` Miguel Ojeda [this message]
2018-08-28 15:03   ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-28 16:53     ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-28 20:41       ` Miguel Ojeda

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