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From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>,
	Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Soheil Hassas Yeganeh <soheil@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	network dev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	MPTCP Upstream <mptcp@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-sctp @ vger . kernel . org" <linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@lists.01.org, kbuild test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"Tang, Feng" <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com, fengwei.yin@intel.com,
	Ying Xu <yinxu@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [net] 4890b686f4: netperf.Throughput_Mbps -69.4% regression
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 06:22:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iLZYGOjTFThvq-J678BtPtqsywwxFekt9XTcPxk_La8eg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iLidqjiiV8vxr7KnUg0JvfoS9+TRGg=8ANZ8NBRjeQxsQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 6:13 AM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 3:57 AM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:50:07 -0400 Xin Long wrote:
> > > From the perf data, we can see __sk_mem_reduce_allocated() is the one
> > > using CPU the most more than before, and mem_cgroup APIs are also
> > > called in this function. It means the mem cgroup must be enabled in
> > > the test env, which may explain why I couldn't reproduce it.
> > >
> > > The Commit 4890b686f4 ("net: keep sk->sk_forward_alloc as small as
> > > possible") uses sk_mem_reclaim(checking reclaimable >= PAGE_SIZE) to
> > > reclaim the memory, which is *more frequent* to call
> > > __sk_mem_reduce_allocated() than before (checking reclaimable >=
> > > SK_RECLAIM_THRESHOLD). It might be cheap when
> > > mem_cgroup_sockets_enabled is false, but I'm not sure if it's still
> > > cheap when mem_cgroup_sockets_enabled is true.
> > >
> > > I think SCTP netperf could trigger this, as the CPU is the bottleneck
> > > for SCTP netperf testing, which is more sensitive to the extra
> > > function calls than TCP.
> > >
> > > Can we re-run this testing without mem cgroup enabled?
> >
> > FWIW I defer to Eric, thanks a lot for double checking the report
> > and digging in!
>
> I did tests with TCP + memcg and noticed a very small additional cost
> in memcg functions,
> because of suboptimal layout:
>
> Extract of an internal Google bug, update from June 9th:
>
> --------------------------------
> I have noticed a minor false sharing to fetch (struct
> mem_cgroup)->css.parent, at offset 0xc0,
> because it shares the cache line containing struct mem_cgroup.memory,
> at offset 0xd0
>
> Ideally, memcg->socket_pressure and memcg->parent should sit in a read
> mostly cache line.
> -----------------------
>
> But nothing that could explain a "-69.4% regression"

I guess the test now hits memcg limits more often, forcing expensive reclaim,
and the memcg limits need some adjustments.

Overall, tests enabling memcg should probably need fine tuning, I will
defer to Intel folks.


>
> memcg has a very similar strategy of per-cpu reserves, with
> MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH being 32 pages per cpu.
>
> It is not clear why SCTP with 10K writes would overflow this reserve constantly.
>
> Presumably memcg experts will have to rework structure alignments to
> make sure they can cope better
> with more charge/uncharge operations, because we are not going back to
> gigantic per-socket reserves,
> this simply does not scale.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-24  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-19 15:04 [net] 4890b686f4: netperf.Throughput_Mbps -69.4% regression kernel test robot
2022-06-23  0:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-23  3:08   ` Xin Long
2022-06-23 22:50     ` Xin Long
2022-06-24  1:57       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-24  4:13         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-24  4:22           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2022-06-24  5:13           ` Feng Tang
2022-06-24  5:45             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-24  6:00               ` Feng Tang
2022-06-24  6:07                 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-24  6:34           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-24  7:06             ` Feng Tang
2022-06-24 14:43               ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-25  2:36                 ` Feng Tang
2022-06-27  2:38                   ` Feng Tang
2022-06-27  8:46                     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-27 12:34                       ` Feng Tang
2022-06-27 14:07                         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-27 14:48                           ` Feng Tang
2022-06-27 16:25                             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-27 16:48                               ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-27 17:05                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-28  1:46                                 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-06-28  3:49                               ` Feng Tang
2022-07-01 15:47                                 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-03 10:43                                   ` Feng Tang
2022-07-03 22:55                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-05  5:03                                       ` Feng Tang
2022-08-16  5:52                                         ` Oliver Sang
2022-08-16 15:55                                           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-27 14:52                         ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-27 14:56                           ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-27 15:12                           ` Feng Tang
2022-06-27 16:25                             ` Shakeel Butt

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