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From: Julius Werner <>
Cc: Julius Werner <>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <>,
	LKML <>,
	Wei-Ning Huang <>,
	Brian Norris <>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] firmware: coreboot: Request table region for exclusive access
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 16:37:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

> Furthermore, I see that my system RAM excludes this coreboot table so it
> doesn't fall into the bucket that CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM would find.

Yes, that is intentional. We don't want the kernel to try to use that
memory for anything else (since we want those tables to survive), so
we mark them as reserved in the e820 map.

> > (I guess an alternative would be to rewrite 'cbmem' to use
> > /sys/bus/coreboot/devices if available to get its coreboot table
> > information. But we'd still need to maintain the old path for
> > backwards compatibility anyway, so that would really just make it more
> > complicated.)
> This sounds like a good idea. Userspace reaching into /dev/mem is not
> good from a kernel hardening perspective. That's why those strict devmem
> configs exist. Can cbmem be updated to query information from device
> drivers instead, so that we can enable CONFIG_IO_STRICT_DEVMEM as well?

Well... problem is that cbmem doesn't just access the coreboot tables,
it accesses more stuff. There is actually a larger memory region
called CBMEM (that's what the utility is named after) which contains
all sorts of random memory allocations that coreboot wanted to survive
for the lifetime of the system. The coreboot table is one section in
there, and it sort of serves as a directory for some of the others
(although there's also just a general CBMEM directory... there's some
redundancy there). But cbmem can also print some of the other CBMEM
sections which it finds by querying the coreboot table, such as the
firmware log or the boot timestamps.

So the question is how we can get to that content if /dev/mem isn't
available anymore. One option would be to just write separate kernel
drivers to completely replace the cbmem utility (we already have one
for the log, for example), but I think Linux generally doesn't want to
have too much logic and parsing and stuff in kernel drivers. Another
option is to add a driver that just exposes a sysfs file through which
you could read (we don't need to write) the CBMEM area... but then
we'd essentially want that to take absolute addresses because that's
what the coreboot table pointers contain, so we would've just built
/dev/mem by another name (for a restricted range).

The nicest thing, really, would be if there was a way for a kernel
driver to mark specific regions as "allowed" by /dev/mem. I don't
suppose we'd be willing to introduce a mechanism like that?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-09 17:17 [PATCH v3 0/7] firmware: coreboot: Fix probe and simplify code Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] firmware: coreboot: Let OF core populate platform device Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:31   ` Brian Norris
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] firmware: coreboot: Unmap ioregion on failure Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:49   ` Brian Norris
2018-08-09 19:40     ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 19:52       ` Brian Norris
2018-08-09 23:25         ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] firmware: coreboot: Make bus registration symmetric Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 18:10   ` Julius Werner
2018-08-09 23:30     ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] firmware: coreboot: Collapse platform drivers into bus core Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] firmware: coreboot: Remap RAM with memremap() instead of ioremap() Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 18:24   ` Julius Werner
2018-08-09 22:07     ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] firmware: coreboot: Only populate devices in coreboot_table_init() Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 21:02   ` Julius Werner
2018-08-09 23:43     ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] firmware: coreboot: Request table region for exclusive access Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 21:07   ` Julius Werner
2018-08-09 23:03     ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 23:37       ` Julius Werner [this message]
2018-08-09 23:44         ` Julius Werner
2018-08-10  2:54           ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-10 23:24             ` Stephen Boyd
2018-08-09 18:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] firmware: coreboot: Fix probe and simplify code Brian Norris

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