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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young()
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:57:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufZy+3+0zWTpAr8wJkWeQ4c4b9msiuWWu0XK=_aedqB=8w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yt_q4=pPW1M6fHN9HrV5JuTo9_9GQ0wv4-VT7tivU1+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 3:55 AM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 3:47 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some architectures automatically set the accessed bit in PTEs, e.g.,
> > x86 and arm64 v8.2. On architectures that do not have this capability,
> > clearing the accessed bit in a PTE usually triggers a page fault
> > following the TLB miss of this PTE (to emulate the accessed bit).
> >
> > Being aware of this capability can help make better decisions, e.g.,
> > whether to spread the work out over a period of time to reduce bursty
> > page faults when trying to clear the accessed bit in many PTEs.
> >
> > Note that theoretically this capability can be unreliable, e.g.,
> > hotplugged CPUs might be different from builtin ones. Therefore it
> > should not be used in architecture-independent code that involves
> > correctness, e.g., to determine whether TLB flushes are required (in
> > combination with the accessed bit).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
> > Acked-by: Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>
> > Acked-by: Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig@archlinux.org>
> > Acked-by: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>
> > Acked-by: Steven Barrett <steven@liquorix.net>
> > Acked-by: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
> > Acked-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > Tested-by: Daniel Byrne <djbyrne@mtu.edu>
> > Tested-by: Donald Carr <d@chaos-reins.com>
> > Tested-by: Holger Hoffstätte <holger@applied-asynchrony.com>
> > Tested-by: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> > Tested-by: Shuang Zhai <szhai2@cs.rochester.edu>
> > Tested-by: Sofia Trinh <sofia.trinh@edi.works>
> > Tested-by: Vaibhav Jain <vaibhav@linux.ibm.com>
> > ---
>
> Reviewed-by: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>

Thanks.

> i guess arch_has_hw_pte_young() isn't called that often in either
> mm/memory.c or mm/vmscan.c.
> Otherwise, moving to a static key might help. Is it?

MRS shouldn't be slower than either branch of a static key. With a
static key, we only can optimize one of the two cases.

There is a *theoretical* problem with MRS: ARM specs don't prohibit a
physical CPU to support both cases (on different logical CPUs).

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-11 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-09  2:12 [PATCH v9 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-03-11 10:55   ` Barry Song
2022-03-11 22:57     ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-03-16 22:15   ` Barry Song
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-03-18  1:15   ` Barry Song
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-03-14  8:08   ` Huang, Ying
2022-03-14  9:30     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-15  0:34       ` Huang, Ying
2022-03-15  0:50         ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-21 18:58       ` Justin Forbes
2022-03-21 19:17         ` Prarit Bhargava
2022-03-22  4:52           ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-16 23:25   ` Barry Song
2022-03-21  9:04     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-21 11:47       ` Barry Song
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-03-16  5:55   ` Huang, Ying
2022-03-16  7:54     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-19  3:01   ` Barry Song
2022-03-19  3:11     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-23  7:47       ` Barry Song
2022-03-24  6:24         ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-24  8:13           ` Barry Song
2022-03-19 10:14   ` Barry Song
2022-03-21 23:51     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-19 11:15   ` Barry Song
2022-03-22  0:30     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-21 12:51   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-03-22  4:02     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-21 13:01   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-03-22  4:39     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-22  5:26   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-03-22  5:55     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  2:29   ` Barry Song
2022-04-07  3:04     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:46       ` Barry Song
2022-04-07 23:51         ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-03-22  7:47   ` Barry Song
2022-03-22  8:20     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-22  8:45       ` Barry Song
2022-03-22  9:00         ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-03-22  7:22   ` Barry Song
2022-03-22  8:14     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-03-10 12:29   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-03-11  0:37     ` Yu Zhao
2022-03-09  2:12 ` [PATCH v9 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-03-11  8:22   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-03-11  9:38     ` Yu Zhao

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