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From: Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	"Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	acme@kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org, kan.liang@intel.com,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the kernel in the "skid" region)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:03:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP045Aob-1Yk7TY_FzxbDOMDzTsuSqwBF389ZM=PgUedG_eS8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOp6jLZjGDRiHaitwcV0Jz86WbL=8UocEFCGd_ZXAEYRwtf6nA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>> Should any of those be moved into the "should be dropped" pile?
>
> Why not be conservative and clear every sample you're not sure about?
>
> We'd appreciate a fix sooner rather than later here, since rr is
> currently broken on every stable Linux kernel and our attempts to
> implement a workaround have failed.
>
> (We have separate "interrupt" and "measure" counters, and I thought we
> might work around this regression by programming the "interrupt"
> counter to count kernel events as well as user events (interrupting
> early is OK), but that caused our (completely separate) "measure"
> counter to report off-by-one results (!), which seems to be a
> different bug present on a range of older kernels.)

This seems to have stalled out here unfortunately.

Can we get a consensus (from ingo or peterz?) on Mark's question?  Or,
alternatively, can we move the patch at the top of this thread forward
on the stable branches until we do reach an answer to that question?

We've abandoned hope of working around this problem in rr and are
currently broken for all of our users with an up-to-date kernel, so
the situation for us is rather dire at the moment I'm afraid.

Thanks,

- Kyle

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-11  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAP045Ap8cMx6mzSgcQ3n3bnh_8GJuCp7_KZe_5ZTCR_K6cPTLw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-28  1:01 ` [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey
2017-06-28  2:09   ` Jin, Yao
2017-06-28  4:51     ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-28  5:35       ` Jin, Yao
2017-06-28  7:30         ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-28 10:12       ` Mark Rutland
2017-06-28 10:56         ` [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Mark Rutland
2017-06-28 12:40           ` Vince Weaver
2017-06-28 13:07             ` Mark Rutland
2017-06-29  8:13               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-06-29  8:25                 ` Alexey Budankov
2017-06-28 16:48           ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-28 17:49             ` Mark Rutland
2017-06-28 22:55               ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-29  0:27                 ` Jin, Yao
2017-06-30 17:44                 ` Kyle Huey
2017-07-04  9:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-04  9:33                   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-04  9:46                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-04 10:21                     ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-06  5:07                       ` Robert O'Callahan
2017-07-11  2:03                         ` Kyle Huey [this message]
2017-07-11  9:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-11 13:07                             ` Jin, Yao
2017-07-12  7:57                               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-11 14:26                             ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-11 15:32                             ` Kyle Huey
2017-07-18  0:07                               ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-29  8:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-04  9:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-04 10:04                   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-11  9:03           ` [tip:perf/urgent] Revert "perf/core: Drop kernel samples even though :u is specified" tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2017-06-28 16:46         ` [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey
2017-06-28 17:19           ` Mark Rutland
2017-06-28 17:36             ` Kyle Huey
2017-06-28 17:52               ` Mark Rutland
2017-06-28 17:48             ` Robert O'Callahan

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