From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08185C433DF for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2020 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C467F20772 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2020 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Kh0cIo/Z" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728078AbgGDXmA (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:42:00 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38326 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727994AbgGDXl7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:41:59 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x641.google.com (mail-ej1-x641.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::641]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F349C061794 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2020 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x641.google.com with SMTP id dp18so38601830ejc.8 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sWyN/3WNtV7VRIdJ8FuzrwB0Ews8dbEmWLEqUU8aH3Y=; b=Kh0cIo/ZsIAxjW9Q//BSRJhntuBYewSUFD5usVcoOci+eW1UJqiUpT7+DYj5/t0dXU ptxDt8Kobg2fPoYCw8FZdCueMA9WI4np9bQslZPwKDlSJvdeOaoTsEcj+yzhc+Zj2teo tIhalQL4RV7zge44nchGuWcrdhEQ0vc5cOeyv3NBK7utaVLrwWbwHBEJDlNos/YyI2tX IypEXDqHEmHZFbz/Bk+8Qkszk5f+onYfU90ufaYONfD3/I9RjlBeLhr+j+KdLLo3jqd8 fzFzttljI+WklUAHUyJZrP9vwN061KoXidBWAcVAzOcGeG1/IMULDziOIjTOK7idgyeR A5Hg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sWyN/3WNtV7VRIdJ8FuzrwB0Ews8dbEmWLEqUU8aH3Y=; b=rfTFdzYirIa/4Jzh3ML01nH6cjm3NqZh3TG7171hF3HM1BDxz+MKtOKl5NogqcXL6f nH+EMOJAmbPS1da0jE1d47zm1ydOakgb/0gpOEOBTjF2BkyIi0zxD0O9qmhlf7viWxUm ITRC96hfYxD+FHqpwkCB6KJk52SzmR1u7xtRfyjq9P7254csKStaRCkl0/w8NxWLQQdq TE3cj2/uphGBWblLEByiwhyE7H9ruCeP26zXVQ3KObNUbqpPZ958B1iPfVHVRECRXqtB cqoe1mbHE6eqPzhJPezIF1R14Sa8TrSxidLUPDmTmksKCdOw6RgofQYQ8y0+4GrNAdnJ ccGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ST33ASotlACEcIwOodOX6St5zZn8/b96QjuNVvVurCXY4aVbG 9bKyoENEnl4f048L9KFh/qpMQFEO8yajcKDahVw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwWS0Ma5bRs5z3IeTaszufOAuFwKp2kgb8VjlRm/RwxTJR6CiDakIznepbcBwH7i8b/fobZciNMZO2mDh57nT8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:f88a:: with SMTP id lg10mr37142718ejb.317.1593906118215; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:41:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <920e6dc0-628b-9bad-926a-d1238a373cda@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <920e6dc0-628b-9bad-926a-d1238a373cda@infradead.org> From: Dave Airlie Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:41:47 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology To: Randy Dunlap Cc: Dan Williams , Linus Torvalds , ksummit , Greg Kroah-Hartman , LKML , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org '. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The > > how about: > Using colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. I'd totally submit that red/black trees while in no way racist, are a horrible indirection, as it means nothing if you've never interacted with gambling culture, (and maybe James Bond movies). left/right trees make naturally more sense and translate into more languages, so yes I think removal of color naming is a good thing even for non-racist reasonings. Dave.