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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: MTRR use in drivers
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:30:05 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9tzkJTf4d=HfBUs3VwmNG1+Zo5J-JURYd4mYcJ82yXZOKg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C75465.9060007@zytor.com>

>>> Why do you care about performance when PAT is disabled?

breaking old boxes just because, is just going to get reverted when I
get the first regression report that you broke old boxes.

Andy Lutomirski just submitted a bunch of patches to clean up the DRM
usage of mtrrs, they are in drm-next, afaik we no longer add them on
PAT systems.

Dave.

>>
>> It will regress already slow boxes.  We blacklist a LOT of P4s, PMs, etc and
>> nobody ever took the pain to track down which ones of those actually have
>> PAT+MTRR aliasing bugs.
>>
>> These boxes have boards like the Radeon X300, which needs either PAT or MTRR
>> to not become unusable...
>>
>
> We're talking hardware which is now many years old, but this is causing
> very serious problems on real, modern hardware.  As far as I understand
> it, too, the blacklisting was precautionary (the only bug that I
> personally know about is a performance bug, where WC would be
> incorrectly converted to UC.)
>
> We need a way forward here.  If it is the only way I think we would have
> to sacrifice the old machines, but perhaps something can be worked out
> (e.g. if PAT is disabled, fall back to MTRRs if available for ioremap_wc()).
>
>         -hpa
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-23 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21  5:00 MTRR use in drivers H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-23  6:35 ` Brice Goglin
2013-06-23 14:07   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-23 19:29     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-06-23 20:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-23 20:30         ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2013-06-23 20:38           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-23 20:54             ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-23 20:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-23 21:27                 ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-23 23:09             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-06-23 21:56         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-06-23 22:10           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-24  0:02             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-06-24  0:31               ` H. Peter Anvin

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