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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 04/10] x86/pks: Preserve the PKRS MSR on context switch
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:58:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gqm5p+pVmX4JL0fT2LY0dfoT+UXAfsGLA9LMr42vp33A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875z4yrfhr.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:06 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 18 2020 at 11:20, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:58 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > [..]
> >>   5) The DAX case which you made "work" with dev_access_enable() and
> >>      dev_access_disable(), i.e. with yet another lazy approach of
> >>      avoiding to change a handful of usage sites.
> >>
> >>      The use cases are strictly context local which means the global
> >>      magic is not used at all. Why does it exist in the first place?
> >>
> >>      Aside of that this global thing would never work at all because the
> >>      refcounting is per thread and not global.
> >>
> >>      So that DAX use case is just a matter of:
> >>
> >>         grant/revoke_access(DEV_PKS_KEY, READ/WRITE)
> >>
> >>      which is effective for the current execution context and really
> >>      wants to be a distinct READ/WRITE protection and not the magic
> >>      global thing which just has on/off. All usage sites know whether
> >>      they want to read or write.
> >
> > I was tracking and nodding until this point. Yes, kill the global /
> > kmap() support, but if grant/revoke_access is not integrated behind
> > kmap_{local,atomic}() then it's not a "handful" of sites that need to
> > be instrumented it's 100s. Are you suggesting that "relaxed" mode
> > enforcement is a way to distribute the work of teaching driver writers
> > that they need to incorporate explicit grant/revoke-read/write in
> > addition to kmap? The entire reason PTE_DEVMAP exists was to allow
> > get_user_pages() for PMEM and not require every downstream-GUP code
> > path to specifically consider whether it was talking to PMEM or RAM
> > pages, and certainly not whether they were reading or writing to it.
>
> kmap_local() is fine. That can work automatically because it's strict
> local to the context which does the mapping.
>
> kmap() is dubious because it's a 'global' mapping as dictated per
> HIGHMEM. So doing the RELAXED mode for kmap() is sensible I think to
> identify cases where the mapped address is really handed to a different
> execution context. We want to see those cases and analyse whether this
> can't be solved in a different way. That's why I suggested to do a
> warning in that case.
>
> Also vs. the DAX use case I really meant the code in fs/dax and
> drivers/dax/ itself which is handling this via dax_read_[un]lock.
>
> Does that make more sense?

Yup, got it. The dax code can be precise wrt to PKS in a way that
kmap_local() cannot.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-18 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-06 23:28 [PATCH V3 00/10] PKS: Add Protection Keys Supervisor (PKS) support V3 ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:28 ` [PATCH V3 01/10] x86/pkeys: Create pkeys_common.h ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 02/10] x86/fpu: Refactor arch_set_user_pkey_access() for PKS support ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 03/10] x86/pks: Add PKS defines and Kconfig options ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 04/10] x86/pks: Preserve the PKRS MSR on context switch ira.weiny
2020-12-17 14:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-17 22:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-18 13:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-18 19:20         ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 21:06           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-18 21:58             ` Dan Williams [this message]
2020-12-18 22:44               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-18 19:42         ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-18 20:10           ` Dave Hansen
2020-12-18 21:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-18  4:05     ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-17 20:41   ` [NEEDS-REVIEW] " Dave Hansen
2020-12-18  4:10     ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-18 15:33       ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 05/10] x86/entry: Pass irqentry_state_t by reference ira.weiny
2020-11-15 18:58   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-16 18:49     ` Ira Weiny
2020-11-16 20:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-24  6:09   ` [PATCH V3.1] entry: " ira.weiny
2020-12-11 22:14     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-16  1:32       ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-16  2:09         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-17  0:38           ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-17 13:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-17 13:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-17 15:35           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-17 16:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 06/10] x86/entry: Preserve PKRS MSR across exceptions ira.weiny
2020-12-17 15:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 07/10] x86/fault: Report the PKRS state on fault ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 08/10] x86/pks: Add PKS kernel API ira.weiny
2020-12-23 20:39   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 09/10] x86/pks: Enable Protection Keys Supervisor (PKS) ira.weiny
2020-11-06 23:29 ` [PATCH V3 10/10] x86/pks: Add PKS test code ira.weiny
2020-12-17 20:55   ` Dave Hansen
2020-12-18  4:05     ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-18 16:59       ` Dan Williams
2020-12-07 22:14 ` [PATCH V3 00/10] PKS: Add Protection Keys Supervisor (PKS) support V3 Ira Weiny
2020-12-08 15:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-08 17:22     ` Ira Weiny

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