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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: DAX mapping detection (was: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 21:32:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iDra+mRqEejfGqapKEAFZmUtUcg0dsJ8nt7mOhcT-Qpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

[ adding linux-fsdevel and linux-nvdimm ]

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Xiao Guangrong
<guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> wrote:
[..]
> However, it is not easy to handle the case that the new VMA overlays with
> the old VMA
> already got by userspace. I think we have some choices:
> 1: One way is completely skipping the new VMA region as current kernel code
> does but i
>    do not think this is good as the later VMAs will be dropped.
>
> 2: show the un-overlayed portion of new VMA. In your case, we just show the
> region
>    (0x2000 -> 0x3000), however, it can not work well if the VMA is a new
> created
>    region with different attributions.
>
> 3: completely show the new VMA as this patch does.
>
> Which one do you prefer?
>

I don't have a preference, but perhaps this breakage and uncertainty
is a good opportunity to propose a more reliable interface for NVML to
get the information it needs?

My understanding is that it is looking for the VM_MIXEDMAP flag which
is already ambiguous for determining if DAX is enabled even if this
dynamic listing issue is fixed.  XFS has arranged for DAX to be a
per-inode capability and has an XFS-specific inode flag.  We can make
that a common inode flag, but it seems we should have a way to
interrogate the mapping itself in the case where the inode is unknown
or unavailable.  I'm thinking extensions to mincore to have flags for
DAX and possibly whether the page is part of a pte, pmd, or pud
mapping.  Just floating that idea before starting to look into the
implementation, comments or other ideas welcome...

             reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08  4:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-08  4:32 Dan Williams [this message]
2016-09-08 22:56 ` DAX mapping detection (was: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps) Ross Zwisler
2016-09-08 23:04   ` Dan Williams
2016-09-09  8:55     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-09 15:40       ` Dan Williams
2016-09-12  6:00         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-12  3:44       ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-09-12  6:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-12  1:40   ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-15  5:55     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-09-15  6:25       ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-12  5:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-12  7:25     ` Oliver O'Halloran
2016-09-12  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-12  8:05         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-12 15:01           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-13  1:31             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-13  4:06               ` Dan Williams
2016-09-13  5:40                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-12 21:34           ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-13  1:53             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-13  7:17               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-13  9:06                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-14  7:39               ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-14 10:19                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-15  2:31                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-15  3:49                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-15 10:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-15 11:42                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-15 22:33                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-16  5:54                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-19 21:11                               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-12-20  1:09                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-12-20  1:18                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-12-21  0:40                                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-12-21 16:53                                       ` Dan Williams
2016-12-21 21:24                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-21 21:33                                           ` Dan Williams

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