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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Ross Zwisler <zwisler@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Yaowei Bai <baiyaowei@cmss.chinamobile.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Allow persistent memory to be used like normal RAM
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:50:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4je0XXWjej+xM4+gidryQH=p_sevD=eL6w8f-vDQzMm3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49sgxr9rjd.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:29 AM Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> writes:
>
> > Persistent memory is cool.  But, currently, you have to rewrite
> > your applications to use it.  Wouldn't it be cool if you could
> > just have it show up in your system like normal RAM and get to
> > it like a slow blob of memory?  Well... have I got the patch
> > series for you!
>
> So, isn't that what memory mode is for?
>   https://itpeernetwork.intel.com/intel-optane-dc-persistent-memory-operating-modes/

That's a hardware cache that privately manages DRAM in front of PMEM.
It benefits from some help from software [1].

> Why do we need this code in the kernel?

This goes further and enables software managed allocation decisions
with the full DRAM + PMEM address space.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/154767945660.1983228.12167020940431682725.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-17 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-16 18:18 [PATCH 0/4] Allow persistent memory to be used like normal RAM Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/resource: return real error codes from walk failures Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 20:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-16 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/memory-hotplug: allow memory resources to be children Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 19:16   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-16 23:01     ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 23:38       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-23 20:03         ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-23 20:15           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-18 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-18 20:26       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-23 17:05   ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-16 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/4] dax/kmem: let walk_system_ram_range() search child resources Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 18:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] dax: "Hotplug" persistent memory for use like normal RAM Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 21:16   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-16 21:40     ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 21:44       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-16 22:06       ` Dan Williams
2019-01-16 21:53     ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-16 21:59       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-16 21:31   ` Dan Williams
2019-01-17  5:21   ` Du, Fan
2019-01-17 16:56     ` Dan Williams
2019-01-17  8:19   ` Yanmin Zhang
2019-01-17 15:17     ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-18  7:47       ` Yanmin Zhang
2019-01-18 15:20         ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-17 16:29 ` [PATCH 0/4] Allow persistent memory to be used " Jeff Moyer
2019-01-17 16:47   ` Keith Busch
2019-01-17 17:20     ` Jeff Moyer
2019-01-17 19:34       ` Keith Busch
2019-01-17 21:57         ` Jeff Moyer
2019-01-18 11:48       ` Fengguang Wu
2019-01-17 16:50   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-01-17 22:43   ` Dave Hansen

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