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From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	kim.phillips@amd.com, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/13] perf/x86/amd: Add AMD Fam19h Branch Sampling support
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:17:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW7qnu4aaTNKigQdbfGO83Ku22DQm+_xzOXnMW=r6=oTww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBROKmSLLCwFjiqObDpQz4iBUeO-0OaziNy05kxs3-4JHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephane,

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:57 PM Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 1:55 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 12:56:47AM -0700, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> > > This patch series adds support for the AMD Fam19h 16-deep branch sampling
> > > feature as described in the AMD PPR Fam19h Model 01h Revision B1 section 2.1.13.
> >
> > Yay..
> >
> > > BRS interacts with the NMI interrupt as well. Because enabling BRS is expensive,
> > > it is only activated after P event occurrences, where P is the desired sampling period.
> > > At P occurrences of the event, the counter overflows, the CPU catches the NMI interrupt,
> > > activates BRS for 16 branches until it saturates, and then delivers the NMI to the kernel.
> >
> > WTF... ?!? Srsly? You're joking right?
> >
>
> As I said, this is because of the cost of running BRS usually for
> millions of branches to keep only the last 16.
> Running branch sampling in general on any arch is  never totally free.

Could you please share some data on how expensive the BRS is? We are
hoping to use
BRS/LBR without PMI (bpf_get_branch_snapshot). If it is too expensive,
we may need
some heuristic to turn it on/off.

Thanks,
Song

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-27 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-09  7:56 [PATCH v1 00/13] perf/x86/amd: Add AMD Fam19h Branch Sampling support Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 01/13] perf/core: add union to struct perf_branch_entry Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09 19:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-10 12:09     ` Michael Ellerman
2021-09-10 14:16       ` Michael Ellerman
2021-09-15  6:03         ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-17  6:37           ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2021-09-17  6:48             ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-17  7:05               ` Michael Ellerman
2021-09-17  7:39                 ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-17 12:38                   ` Michael Ellerman
2021-09-17 16:42                     ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-19 10:27                       ` Michael Ellerman
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 02/13] x86/cpufeatures: add AMD Fam19h Branch Sampling feature Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 03/13] perf/x86/amd: add AMD Fam19h Branch Sampling support Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09 10:44   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 15:33   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 04/13] perf/x86/amd: add branch-brs helper event for Fam19h BRS Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 05/13] perf/x86/amd: enable branch sampling priv level filtering Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 06/13] perf/x86/amd: add AMD branch sampling period adjustment Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 07/13] perf/core: add idle hooks Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  9:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-09 10:42   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 11:02   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 08/13] perf/x86/core: " Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  9:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 09/13] perf/x86/amd: add idle hooks for branch sampling Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  9:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 10/13] perf tools: add branch-brs as a new event Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 11/13] perf tools: improve IBS error handling Stephane Eranian
2021-09-13 19:34   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-10-04 21:57     ` Kim Phillips
2021-10-04 23:44       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-09-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 12/13] perf tools: improve error handling of AMD Branch Sampling Stephane Eranian
2021-10-04 21:57   ` Kim Phillips
2021-09-09  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 13/13] perf report: add addr_from/addr_to sort dimensions Stephane Eranian
2021-09-09  8:55 ` [PATCH v1 00/13] perf/x86/amd: Add AMD Fam19h Branch Sampling support Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-15  5:55   ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-15  9:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-28 18:30       ` Stephane Eranian
2021-09-27 20:17     ` Song Liu [this message]

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