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From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] serial: 8250: Add a wakeup_capable module param
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:08:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ1GJatR15dVsq-+hAWhD7eaLhtN737QvBaor_=0+K+6wA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120118041720.GA2431@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

[+cc Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> who I think wrote the wakeup.c code]

Hi Alan, Paul,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:10:36PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:56:03 -0800
>> Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Since serial_core now does not make serial ports wake-up capable by
>> > default, add a parameter to support this feature in the 8250 UART.
>> > This is the only UART where I think this feature is useful.
>>
>> NAK
>>
>> Things should just work for users. Magic parameters is not an
>> improvement. If its a performance problem someone needs to fix the rcu
>> sync overhead or stop using rcu on that path.

OK fair enough, I agree. Every level I move down the source tree
affects more people though.

>
> I must say that I lack context here, even after looking at the patch,
> but the synchronize_rcu_expedited() primitives can be used if the latency
> of synchronize_rcu() is too large.
>

Let me provide a bit of context. The serial_core code seems to be the
only place in the kernel that does this:

		device_init_wakeup(tty_dev, 1);
		device_set_wakeup_enable(tty_dev, 0);

The first call makes the device wakeup capable and enables wakeup, The
second call disabled wakeup.

The code that removes the wakeup source looks like this:

void wakeup_source_remove(struct wakeup_source *ws)
{
	if (WARN_ON(!ws))
		return;

	spin_lock_irq(&events_lock);
	list_del_rcu(&ws->entry);
	spin_unlock_irq(&events_lock);
	synchronize_rcu();
}

The sync is there because we are about to destroy the actual ws
structure (in wakeup_source_destroy()). I wonder if it should be in
wakeup_source_destroy() but that wouldn't help me anyway.

synchronize_rcu_expedited() is a bit faster but not really fast
enough. Anyway surely people will complain if I put this in the wakeup
code - it will affect all wakeup users. It seems to me that the right
solution is to avoid enabling and then immediately disabling wakeup.

I assume we can't and shouldn't change device_init_wakeup() . We could
add a call like device_init_wakeup_disabled() which makes the device
wakeup capable but does not actually enable it. Does that work?

Regards,
Simon

>                                                        Thanx, Paul
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-17 18:56 [PATCH 1/3] serial: 8250: Remove trailing space in 8250 driver Simon Glass
2012-01-17 18:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] serial: Make wakeup_capable a flag to reduce boot time Simon Glass
2012-01-17 20:09   ` Alan Cox
2012-01-17 18:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] serial: 8250: Add a wakeup_capable module param Simon Glass
2012-01-17 20:10   ` Alan Cox
2012-01-18  4:17     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-18 21:08       ` Simon Glass [this message]
2012-01-18 21:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-18 22:15           ` Simon Glass
2012-01-18 22:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-18 22:51               ` Simon Glass
2012-01-19  0:02               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-19  1:37                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-19  2:35                   ` Simon Glass
2012-01-19 19:13                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-20  0:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-20  6:12                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-20 23:49                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-23 16:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-23 21:04                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-18 22:12         ` Alan Cox
2012-01-18 22:19           ` Simon Glass
2012-01-19  0:08         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-19  0:58           ` Simon Glass
2012-01-18 23:07   ` [PATCH 1/2] power: Add function to init wakeup capability without enabling Simon Glass
2012-01-18 23:07     ` [PATCH 2/2] serial: Use device_init_wakeup_flag() to make device wakeup-capable Simon Glass
2012-01-19  0:10     ` [PATCH 1/2] power: Add function to init wakeup capability without enabling Rafael J. Wysocki

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