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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	"Haitao Huang" <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Mehta, Sohil" <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
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	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Zhang, Bo" <zhanb@microsoft.com>,
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	"Li, Zhiquan1" <zhiquan1.li@intel.com>,
	"yangjie@microsoft.com" <yangjie@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/sgx: Restructure top-level EPC reclaim function
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:08:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CYDVWF9BY27K.2MXXROH30QHBT@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CYDVTPABVUJK.1BTJY8YUF9WPI@kernel.org>

On Sat Jan 13, 2024 at 11:04 PM EET, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri Jan 12, 2024 at 7:07 PM EET, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 19:44:56 -0600, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > The point is, with or w/o this patch, you can only reclaim 16 EPC  
> > >> pages
> > >> > in one
> > >> > function call (as you have said you are going to remove
> > >> > SGX_NR_TO_SCAN_MAX,
> > >> > which is a cipher to both of us).  The only difference I can see is,
> > >> > with this
> > >> > patch, you can have multiple calls of "isolate" and then call the
> > >> > "do_reclaim"
> > >> > once.
> > >> >
> > >> > But what's the good of having the "isolate" if the "do_reclaim" can  
> > >> only
> > >> > reclaim
> > >> > 16 pages anyway?
> > >> >
> > >> > Back to my last reply, are you afraid of any LRU has less than 16  
> > >> pages
> > >> > to
> > >> > "isolate", therefore you need to loop LRUs of descendants to get 16?
> > >> > Cause I
> > >> > really cannot think of any other reason why you are doing this.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I think I see your point. By capping pages reclaimed per cycle to 16,
> > >> there is not much difference even if those 16 pages are spread in  
> > >> separate
> > >> LRUs . The difference is only significant when we ever raise that cap.  
> > >> To
> > >> preserve the current behavior of ewb loops independent on number of LRUs
> > >> to loop through for each reclaiming cycle, regardless of the exact value
> > >> of the page cap, I would still think current approach in the patch is
> > >> reasonable choice.  What do you think?
> > >
> > > To me I won't bother to do that.  Having less than 16 pages in one LRU is
> > > *extremely rare* that should never happen in practice.  It's pointless  
> > > to make
> > > such code adjustment at this stage.
> > >
> > > Let's focus on enabling functionality first.  When you have some real
> > > performance issue that is related to this, we can come back then.
> > >
> >
> > I have done some rethinking about this and realize this does save quite  
> > some significant work: without breaking out isolation part from  
> > sgx_reclaim_pages(), I can remove the changes to use a list for isolated  
> > pages, and no need to introduce "state" such as RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS. About  
> > 1/3 of changes for per-cgroup reclamation will be gone.
> >
> > So I think I'll go this route now. The only downside may be performance if  
> > a enclave spreads its pages in different cgroups and even that is minimum  
> > impact as we limit reclamation to 16 pages a time. Let me know if someone  
> > feel strongly we need dealt with that and see some other potential issues  
> > I may have missed.
>
> We could deal with possible performance regression later on (if there
> is need). I mean there should we a workload first that would so that
> sort stimulus...

I.e. no reason to deal with imaginary workload :-) Go ahead and we'll
go through it.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-13 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30 18:20 [PATCH v6 00/12] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
2023-11-15 20:25   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-09  3:37     ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-10 19:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-05  9:45   ` Michal Koutný
2024-01-06  1:42     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] cgroup/misc: Export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] x86/sgx: Implement basic EPC misc cgroup functionality Haitao Huang
2023-11-06 12:09   ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-06 18:59     ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-06 22:18       ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-07  1:16         ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-07  2:08           ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-07 19:07             ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-20  3:16             ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-26 16:01               ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-26 16:32                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-06 22:23   ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-15 20:48   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_list to encapsulate LRU list Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_list for existing active page list Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] x86/sgx: Introduce EPC page states Haitao Huang
2023-11-15 20:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-05 17:57   ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-06  1:45     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages Haitao Huang
2023-11-15 20:59   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/sgx: Restructure top-level EPC reclaim function Haitao Huang
2023-11-20  3:45   ` Huang, Kai
2023-11-26 16:27     ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-27  9:57       ` Huang, Kai
2023-12-12  4:04         ` Haitao Huang
2023-12-13 11:17           ` Huang, Kai
2023-12-15 19:49             ` Haitao Huang
2023-12-18  1:44               ` Huang, Kai
2023-12-18 17:32                 ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-12-18 21:24                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-03 16:37                   ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-04 19:11                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-04 19:19                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-04 19:27                       ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-04 21:01                         ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-05 14:43                       ` Mikko Ylinen
2024-01-04 12:38                   ` Michal Koutný
2024-01-04 19:20                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-12 17:07                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-13 21:04                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-13 21:08                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation for cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-11-06 15:58   ` [PATCH] x86/sgx: Charge proper mem_cgroup for usage due to EPC reclamation by cgroups Haitao Huang
2023-11-06 16:10   ` [PATCH v6 10/12] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation for cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2023-10-30 18:20 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang
2023-11-15 21:00   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-11-15 21:22     ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-06  3:26 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-11-06 15:48   ` Haitao Huang
2023-11-08  1:00     ` Haitao Huang
2024-01-05 18:29 ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-05 20:13   ` Haitao Huang

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