From: hpa@zytor.com
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
bp@alien8.de, fweimer@redhat.com, vapier@gentoo.org,
hjl.tools@gmail.com, dalias@libc.org, x32@buildd.debian.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Subject: Re: Can we drop upstream Linux x32 support?
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:22:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DC97ED04-0FAB-4A4E-BD24-456B5A0978DF@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi_Kp=3XmGDdzmadzFSPFvuL+aAJ6ZPAR=o4z=KwYT2vw@mail.gmail.com>
On December 10, 2018 5:40:33 PM PST, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>wrote:
>>
>> I'm seriously considering sending a patch to remove x32 support from
>> upstream Linux. Here are some problems with it:
>
>I talked to Arnd (I think - we were talking about all the crazy ABI's,
>but maybe it was with somebody else) about exactly this in Edinburgh.
>
>Apparently the main real use case is for extreme benchmarking. It's
>the only use-case where the complexity of maintaining a whole
>development environment and distro is worth it, it seems. Apparently a
>number of Spec submissions have been done with the x32 model.
>
>I'm not opposed to trying to sunset the support, but let's see who
>complains..
>
> Linus
The use case aside, I need to address the technical issues in this post; some of the behaviors that Andy is pointing out area quite intentional, even if they are perhaps somewhat confusing at first glance. That being said, some were due to tradeoffs that might have been wrong.
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-11 2:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-11 1:23 Can we drop upstream Linux x32 support? Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 2:22 ` hpa [this message]
2018-12-11 8:16 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-11 21:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 23:35 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-12 2:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 2:33 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-12 9:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-12 18:14 ` Joseph Myers
2018-12-12 18:50 ` Ivan Ivanov
2018-12-12 19:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 19:18 ` Ivan Ivanov
2018-12-12 16:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 16:52 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-12 18:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-13 12:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-13 15:57 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 16:04 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 16:28 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 11:42 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-14 16:13 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 18:42 ` Joseph Myers
2018-12-15 4:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:38 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-11 23:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-12-13 14:38 ` Olof Johansson
2018-12-13 15:46 ` Lance Richardson
2018-12-13 16:11 ` Richard Purdie
2018-12-11 3:14 ` H.J. Lu
2018-12-11 5:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 9:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-11 11:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-11 11:37 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-11 11:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-11 5:46 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-11 10:29 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-12-11 10:37 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-11 10:44 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-12-11 21:59 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:33 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 5:03 ` Kevin Easton
2018-12-13 9:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-12-13 9:37 ` Sven Hartrumpf
2018-12-13 9:57 ` Adam Borowski
2018-12-13 18:50 ` Sven Hartrumpf
2018-12-13 12:12 ` Kevin Easton
2018-12-14 14:38 ` David Laight
2018-12-14 15:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-12-13 16:02 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 14:13 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-12-14 16:17 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 16:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-12-14 16:38 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-14 16:55 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 18:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 19:59 ` Lance Richardson
2018-12-14 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-14 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 21:16 ` Thomas Schöbel-Theuer
2018-12-14 21:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 21:41 ` Thomas Schöbel-Theuer
2018-12-15 7:41 ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2018-12-15 15:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 12:41 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-09 16:02 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-22 13:34 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-12-11 20:38 Shawn Rutledge
2018-12-12 0:00 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-12-12 9:12 Steven Newbury
2018-12-12 10:48 ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-12 13:27 ` Steven Newbury
2018-12-12 14:01 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-12 14:46 ` Steven Newbury
2018-12-12 16:05 ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 16:17 tedheadster
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