From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261468AbVBNVIv (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:08:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261474AbVBNVIv (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:08:51 -0500 Received: from mx2.palmsource.com ([12.7.175.14]:50588 "EHLO mx2.palmsource.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261468AbVBNVIn convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:08:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: RE: [BK] upgrade will be needed Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:08:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [BK] upgrade will be needed Thread-Index: AcUSrs9opofoS3z+SvecQIR3RVinsgAKdglg From: "Martin Fouts" To: "Larry McVoy" Cc: "LKML" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In the United States, Ford isn't legally allowed to do that. What you are asking for in your license, it seems to me, is what is already provided for in the DMCA: you wish that users not reverse engineer your product. You do not need a license clause for this, as the DMCA already covers it; and if you did, the clause would read 'thou shalt not reverse engineer this product or allow your copy to be used to reverse engineer this product' rather than 'thou shalt not compete with this product.' A clause requiring that a user not compete is probably going to look like an attempt at restraint of trade to a judge, and even for employees, the limits you can put on their re-employability are restricted by anti-monopoly law. -----Original Message----- From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Larry McVoy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:00 AM To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Mws; LKML Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:03:45AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Can you see Ford Motors telling > someone that you can't go work for GM if you drive a Ford? You paid for the Ford. Suppose Ford offered to give you the car but said if you take it then you can't go work at GM because this car is ahead of their technology. See the difference? It's one thing if you plunked your money down and took the standard license or a negotiated license. You are getting an expensive product and not paying any money for it. The payment is the terms you agree to in the license and the obligations of those terms. That payment may be unacceptable to you, which is your choice. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/