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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: andrew.grover@intel.com (Grover, Andrew)
Cc: chief@bandits.org ('John Fremlin'),
	linux-power@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ("Acpi-PM
	(E-mail)"), pavel@suse.cz ('Pavel Machek'),
	Simon.Richter@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de (Simon Richter),
	aferber@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Andreas Ferber),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Let init know user wants to shutdown
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:51:12 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E14pgBe-0003gg-00@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E89006CDDD91@orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> from "Grover, Andrew" at Apr 17, 2001 05:07:30 PM

> There should be only one PM policy agent on the system. I don't care about
> other processes that query for display purposes, but someone needs to be

The kernel pm code assumes there is a single agent issuing power management
requests via pm_* calls. User space is a different matter. There are numerous
good arguments for multiple policy agents, be they multiple applications or
multiple state machines in one system. Most power management seems to best
be modelled by multiple very simple algorithms running in parallel.

> solution, but I hope I have been able to be clear on why I believe an actual
> daemon is justified. 

I would tend to agree here. If you want to wire it to init the fine but 
pm is basically message passing kernel->user and possibly message reply to
allow veto/approve. APM provides a good API for this and there is a definite
incentive to make ACPI use the same messages, behaviour and extend it. 



  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-18  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-18  0:07 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18  0:51 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2001-04-18  1:56   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 11:55     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 19:10       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 20:10         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 20:21           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 21:05           ` Avery Pennarun
2001-04-18 21:34             ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:02         ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-02 16:52           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:01     ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-20 23:41       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-21  7:54         ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-24  0:17         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-24  1:08           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-24 10:06           ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-25 14:28             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-25 16:11             ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-18  1:54 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19  3:54   ` Next gen PM interface John Fremlin
2001-04-19  4:07     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-19  5:08     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 18:57       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:09         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 19:30           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:07       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:08         ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-18 22:52 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-26 22:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 21:46 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 22:09 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 22:30 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19  2:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-19 12:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-18 18:28 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 18:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-18 19:36 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17 16:45 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-17 22:23 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 15:26 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-18 19:51   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-16 23:32 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17  6:40 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17  6:41 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17 11:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-12 17:25 David Balazic
2001-04-16  7:03 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 17:06 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11 18:29 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11  4:31 alad
2001-04-10 17:05 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11  4:23 ` John R Lenton
2001-04-11 14:59   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 12:20 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 15:10   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 14:56 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-04 22:02 Pavel Machek
2001-04-10 23:20 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:30   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:38   ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:46     ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:53     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:41   ` Mike Castle
2001-04-13  0:29     ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 12:42       ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 15:49         ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-16 16:25           ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:27             ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 21:44               ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 22:38                 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17  6:16                   ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17  8:39                     ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17 14:09                       ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:36         ` Ben Ford
     [not found] ` <9b04food@ncc1701.cistron.net>
     [not found]   ` <9b052eod@ncc1701.cistron.net>
2001-04-13  0:26     ` Pavel Machek

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