From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:26:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:26:36 -0400 Received: from router-100M.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.17]:28938 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:26:21 -0400 Subject: Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor To: kmacy@netapp.com (Kip Macy) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:24:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: brent@biglinux.tccw.wku.edu (Brent D. Norris), kmacy@netapp.com (Kip Macy), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Linux Kernel List) In-Reply-To: from "Kip Macy" at Jun 11, 2001 06:18:51 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > My opinion is that if you have to obscure your interface to protect your > margins because you are making a commodity component then you are in the > wrong business. Nonetheless they can correctly point out that they are Cryto hardware is commodity. In fact its questionable it has any value below 1Gbit/second anyway because the cheapest low speed crypto coprocessors are made by AMD and intel. They fit into the second socket on your dual cpu motherboard and as well as being mass market are conveinently reprogrammable and able to run your applications when not doing crypto. The cheapest raid accelerator is the same story. It costs a lot of money to build custom hardwae, an x86 is the wrong solution but its sufficiently large a hamemr that it works better than the elegant approach for most cases. > still making a lot more money than I am :-). That I doubt looking at recent financial reports But I'd be inclined to ask 3com What other large company helped design the interface and owns some of the IP Does that other company have an interest in the OS business. I don't know for sure but I suspect that would give a most interesting answer