From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:45:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:45:31 -0400 Received: from router-100M.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.17]:4367 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:45:13 -0400 Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4 To: riel@conectiva.com.br (Rik van Riel) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:46:18 +0100 (BST) Cc: matthias.andree@stud.uni-dortmund.de (Matthias Andree), hch@ns.caldera.de (Christoph Hellwig), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (lkml) In-Reply-To: from "Rik van Riel" at Jul 26, 2001 01:13:34 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing > If you care about your email, probably you should either > teach these people about standards like POSIX or SuS > (and tell them to not rely on undefined behaviour) or > switch to an MTA which isn't broken in various ways ;) POSIX and SuS are actually not helpful here. They don't cover how to force namespace to disk, only data and metadata for the file. So you can portably stick your data onto disk, portably be sure its on disk, but not portably be sure the directory entries are on disk. Alan