From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:34:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:34:43 -0400 Received: from router-100M.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.17]:64786 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:34:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Via chipset To: oyhaare@online.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Haare) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:36:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <997225828.10528.4.camel@eagle> from "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Haare" at Aug 08, 2001 01:10:28 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I'm planning on getting a new workstation, and I kinda want an AMD > system. But it seems that most (all?) motherboards for the amd cpu's us= > e > VIA chipsets, and some people have experienced problems with via > chipsets and linux. We have seen two big problem sets with the VIA chipsets and Athlon. The first is a bug in some of the bridges that caused corruption. We had partial workarounds but as of 2.4.7ac releases (and I sent it to Linus for 2.4.8pre) we have an official workaround based on VIA provided info. The second problem is that some VIA chipset boards lock up running the Athlon optimised kernel. This seems to be board specific and we've also had 'setting CAS3 not CAS2' and 'bigger PSU' reports of fixing it for some people. I'm still trying to put together a detailed enough study of what is going on to actually take it to VIA and AMD engineers. So pick a board other folks say work. Personally I am using AMD chipset boards but I don't think thats actually a required solution to avoid the problem. As to the PIV. Right now I see no reason to go that way. The PIV is going to need new compiler tools to get good performance at the moment. It also requires rambus memory. The rambus memory requirement will change soon, the processor will go down to a smaller die size (0.13u) and should get both cheaper and cooler. Hopefully intel will also fix the performance problems with the extra silicon space they will get out of it. So if you think PIV wait for the new socket, new die size then study reviews IMHO. Alan