From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:59:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:59:13 -0400 Received: from dsl-213-023-043-140.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.43.140]:2990 "EHLO starship") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:59:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Simon Kirby , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: The reason to call it 3.0 is the desktop (was Re: [OT] 2.6 not 3.0 - (NUMA)) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 04:47:03 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Chris Friesen , "Martin J. Bligh" , Oliver Neukum , Rob Landley , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <3DA1E250.1C5F7220@digeo.com> <20021008023654.GA29076@netnation.com> In-Reply-To: <20021008023654.GA29076@netnation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 08 October 2002 04:36, Simon Kirby wrote: > Being able to defragment online would be very useful. I've seen some > people talk about this every so often. How far away is it? The vfs consistency semantics are a little complex and fragile at the moment, which is the only thing that makes it hard. Think about how many months of truncate bugs we had, then consider how the situation looks when all the bits of filesystem are moving around while its being accessed. That's not to say it won't happen, but it's unlikely to ever be solid until the vfs semantics mature a little more. -- Daniel