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From: "Chalamarla, Tirumalesh" <Tirumalesh.Chalamarla@cavium.com>
To: Imran Khan <kimran@codeaurora.org>,
	Ganesh Mahendran <opensource.ganesh@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "open list:ARM/QUALCOMM SUPPORT" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "arm64: Increase the max granular size"
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:21:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F16E7DB1-9EBA-49A6-B2E3-B4D89753D1E6@caviumnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93d2819a-95b1-6606-74d4-0bc0a64db29e@codeaurora.org>



On 4/17/17, 12:35 AM, "Imran Khan" <kimran@codeaurora.org> wrote:

    On 4/12/2017 7:30 PM, Chalamarla, Tirumalesh wrote:
    > 
    > 
    > On 4/11/17, 10:13 PM, "linux-arm-kernel on behalf of Imran Khan" <linux-arm-kernel-bounces@lists.infradead.org on behalf of kimran@codeaurora.org> wrote:
    > 
    >     On 4/7/2017 7:36 AM, Ganesh Mahendran wrote:
    >     > 2017-04-06 23:58 GMT+08:00 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>:
    >     >> On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 12:52:13PM +0530, Imran Khan wrote:
    >     >>> On 4/5/2017 10:13 AM, Imran Khan wrote:
    >     >>>>> We may have to revisit this logic and consider L1_CACHE_BYTES the
    >     >>>>> _minimum_ of cache line sizes in arm64 systems supported by the kernel.
    >     >>>>> Do you have any benchmarks on Cavium boards that would show significant
    >     >>>>> degradation with 64-byte L1_CACHE_BYTES vs 128?
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>> For non-coherent DMA, the simplest is to make ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN the
    >     >>>>> _maximum_ of the supported systems:
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h
    >     >>>>> index 5082b30bc2c0..4b5d7b27edaf 100644
    >     >>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h
    >     >>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h
    >     >>>>> @@ -18,17 +18,17 @@
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>>  #include <asm/cachetype.h>
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>> -#define L1_CACHE_SHIFT         7
    >     >>>>> +#define L1_CACHE_SHIFT         6
    >     >>>>>  #define L1_CACHE_BYTES         (1 << L1_CACHE_SHIFT)
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>>  /*
    >     >>>>>   * Memory returned by kmalloc() may be used for DMA, so we must make
    >     >>>>> - * sure that all such allocations are cache aligned. Otherwise,
    >     >>>>> - * unrelated code may cause parts of the buffer to be read into the
    >     >>>>> - * cache before the transfer is done, causing old data to be seen by
    >     >>>>> - * the CPU.
    >     >>>>> + * sure that all such allocations are aligned to the maximum *known*
    >     >>>>> + * cache line size on ARMv8 systems. Otherwise, unrelated code may cause
    >     >>>>> + * parts of the buffer to be read into the cache before the transfer is
    >     >>>>> + * done, causing old data to be seen by the CPU.
    >     >>>>>   */
    >     >>>>> -#define ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN      L1_CACHE_BYTES
    >     >>>>> +#define ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN      (128)
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>>  #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c
    >     >>>>> index 392c67eb9fa6..30bafca1aebf 100644
    >     >>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c
    >     >>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c
    >     >>>>> @@ -976,9 +976,9 @@ void __init setup_cpu_features(void)
    >     >>>>>         if (!cwg)
    >     >>>>>                 pr_warn("No Cache Writeback Granule information, assuming
    >     >>>>> cache line size %d\n",
    >     >>>>>                         cls);
    >     >>>>> -       if (L1_CACHE_BYTES < cls)
    >     >>>>> -               pr_warn("L1_CACHE_BYTES smaller than the Cache Writeback Granule (%d < %d)\n",
    >     >>>>> -                       L1_CACHE_BYTES, cls);
    >     >>>>> +       if (ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN < cls)
    >     >>>>> +               pr_warn("ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN smaller than the Cache Writeback Granule (%d < %d)\n",
    >     >>>>> +                       ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN, cls);
    >     >>>>>  }
    >     >>>>>
    >     >>>>>  static bool __maybe_unused
    >     >>>>
    >     >>>> This change was discussed at: [1] but was not concluded as apparently no one
    >     >>>> came back with test report and numbers. After including this change in our
    >     >>>> local kernel we are seeing significant throughput improvement. For example with:
    >     >>>>
    >     >>>> iperf -c 192.168.1.181 -i 1 -w 128K -t 60
    >     >>>>
    >     >>>> The average throughput is improving by about 30% (230Mbps from 180Mbps).
    >     >>>> Could you please let us know if this change can be included in upstream kernel.
    >     >>>>
    >     >>>> [1]: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.kernel/P40yDB90ePs
    >     >>>
    >     >>> Could you please provide some feedback about the above mentioned query ?
    >     >>
    >     >> Do you have an explanation on the performance variation when
    >     >> L1_CACHE_BYTES is changed? We'd need to understand how the network stack
    >     >> is affected by L1_CACHE_BYTES, in which context it uses it (is it for
    >     >> non-coherent DMA?).
    >     > 
    >     > network stack use SKB_DATA_ALIGN to align.
    >     > ---
    >     > #define SKB_DATA_ALIGN(X) (((X) + (SMP_CACHE_BYTES - 1)) & \
    >     > ~(SMP_CACHE_BYTES - 1))
    >     > 
    >     > #define SMP_CACHE_BYTES L1_CACHE_BYTES
    >     > ---
    >     > I think this is the reason of performance regression.
    >     > 
    >     
    >     Yes this is the reason for performance regression. Due to increases L1 cache alignment the 
    >     object is coming from next kmalloc slab and skb->truesize is changing from 2304 bytes to 
    >     4352 bytes. This in turn increases sk_wmem_alloc which causes queuing of less send buffers.
    >     
    > We tried different benchmarks and found none which really affects with Cache line change. If there is no correctness issue,
    > I think we are fine with reverting the patch.
    > 
    So, can we revert the patch that makes L1_CACHE_SHIFT 7 or should the patch suggested by Catalin should be mainlined.
    We have verified the throughput degradation on 3.18 and 4.4 but I am afraid that this issue will be seen on other
    kernels too.
    > Though I still think it is beneficiary to do some more investigation for the perf loss, who knows 32 bit align or no align might 
    > Give even more perf benefit. 
    > 
    Which perf loss you are referring to here. Did you mean throughput loss here or some other perf benchmarking ?
    
The iperf issue mentioning here, looks to me as incomplete. 

    Thanks,
    Imran
    
    > 
    > Thanks,
    > Tirumalesh.  
    >     >>
    >     >> The Cavium guys haven't shown any numbers (IIUC) to back the
    >     >> L1_CACHE_BYTES performance improvement but I would not revert the
    >     >> original commit since ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN definitely needs to cover the
    >     >> maximum available cache line size, which is 128 for them.
    >     > 
    >     > how about define L1_CACHE_SHIFT like below:
    >     > ---
    >     > #ifdef CONFIG_ARM64_L1_CACHE_SHIFT
    >     > #define L1_CACHE_SHIFT CONFIG_ARM64_L1_CACHE_SHIFT
    >     > #else
    >     > #define L1_CACHE_SHIFT 7
    >     > endif
    >     > ---
    >     > 
    >     > Thanks
    >     > 
    >     >>
    >     >> --
    >     >> Catalin
    >     
    >     
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-18 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-16  9:32 [PATCH] Revert "arm64: Increase the max granular size" Ganesh Mahendran
2016-03-16 10:07 ` Will Deacon
2016-03-16 13:06   ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-16 14:03     ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-16 14:35       ` Will Deacon
2016-03-16 14:54         ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-16 14:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-16 15:26       ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 14:27         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-17 14:49           ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 15:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-17 16:03               ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-17 18:07           ` Andrew Pinski
2016-03-17 18:34             ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 18:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-18 21:05 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-03-21  1:56   ` Ganesh Mahendran
2016-03-21 17:14   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-21 17:23     ` Will Deacon
2016-03-21 17:33       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-21 17:39         ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
     [not found]     ` <CAPub14-sFgx=oCHzJPb9h9b_V0rbn5UAMDNJ-yTkjhz38JPqMQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <10fef112-37f1-0a1b-b5af-435acd032f01@codeaurora.org>
2017-04-06  7:22         ` Imran Khan
2017-04-06 15:58           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-07  2:06             ` Ganesh Mahendran
2017-04-07  8:59               ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-12  5:13               ` Imran Khan
2017-04-12 14:00                 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2017-04-17  7:35                   ` Imran Khan
2017-04-17 10:38                     ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-18 14:48                       ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-18 17:05                         ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-19 12:01                           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-19 13:11                             ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-25  6:42                               ` Ding Tianhong
2017-04-18 18:21                     ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh [this message]
2017-04-11  4:40             ` Jon Masters

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