From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:40:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKOEJBGDAC.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4952d3f536060c186f40c277dfc74194@kernel.crashing.org>
> There is a quite convincing argument that such an access _is_ an
> access to a volatile object; see GCC PR21568 comment #9. This
> probably isn't the last word on the matter though...
I find this argument completely convincing and retract the contrary argument
that I've made many times in this forum and others. You learn something new
every day.
Just in case it wasn't clear:
int i;
*(volatile int *)&i=2;
In this case, there *is* an access to a volatile object. This is the end
result of the the standard's definition of what it means to apply the
'volatile int *' cast to '&i' and then apply the '*' operator to the result
and use it as an lvalue.
C does not define the type of an object by how it is defined but by how it
is accessed!
DS
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-16 22:41 UTC|newest]
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2007-08-09 13:14 [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-09 14:29 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 15:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-14 22:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 22:45 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14 22:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 23:08 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-14 23:04 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14 23:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 6:49 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 8:18 ` Heiko Carstens
2007-08-15 13:53 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-15 14:35 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 14:52 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 16:09 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-15 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 17:13 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 18:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 18:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 19:54 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 20:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 20:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 22:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 20:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 0:36 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 0:32 ` your mail Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 0:58 ` [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 0:51 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 1:18 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 1:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 21:05 ` [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 22:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 1:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 2:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 19:58 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-16 0:39 ` [PATCH] i386: Fix a couple busy loops in mach_wakecpu.h:wait_for_init_deassert() Satyam Sharma
2007-08-24 11:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-24 12:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-24 12:12 ` Kenn Humborg
2007-08-24 14:25 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-24 13:30 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-24 17:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-24 20:26 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-24 20:34 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-24 16:19 ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-15 16:13 ` [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Chris Snook
2007-08-15 23:40 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 23:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 1:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 2:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 19:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 1:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 2:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 19:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 3:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 3:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 3:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-17 23:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-18 0:09 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-18 1:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-18 1:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-18 1:41 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18 4:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-18 13:36 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-18 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-18 23:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-24 12:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-24 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-18 21:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-20 13:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-20 22:04 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-20 22:48 ` Russell King
2007-08-20 23:02 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 0:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-21 7:08 ` Russell King
2007-08-21 7:05 ` Russell King
2007-08-21 9:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21 11:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 14:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-21 22:51 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-22 0:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-22 21:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 14:39 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-17 5:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 5:56 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 7:26 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 8:47 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 10:12 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 13:05 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 9:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 10:23 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 22:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 23:51 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 23:55 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 6:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-17 8:52 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-17 10:08 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 22:29 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 17:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-14 23:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 10:35 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-15 12:04 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 12:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 13:08 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-15 13:11 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-15 13:47 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 14:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 15:33 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 16:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 17:18 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 18:05 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 17:55 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 19:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 21:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 20:58 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 18:19 ` David Howells
2007-08-15 18:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 23:41 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 23:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 0:12 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 0:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 0:30 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 0:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 0:53 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 18:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:40 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 20:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 1:23 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15 23:22 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 0:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 0:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 0:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 0:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 0:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 0:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 0:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 1:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 2:15 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 2:08 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 2:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 3:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 3:33 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 3:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 4:03 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 5:37 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 6:00 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 18:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 18:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 19:44 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 2:18 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-16 2:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 1:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 2:00 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 2:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 2:11 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 2:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 3:15 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 3:43 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 2:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 2:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 2:33 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 3:01 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 4:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 5:39 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 6:56 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 7:09 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 8:06 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-16 8:10 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 9:54 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-16 10:31 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-16 10:42 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 23:59 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 1:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 7:39 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 18:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 3:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 4:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 4:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 7:25 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-17 8:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 8:58 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 10:03 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 12:50 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 12:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-18 2:15 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 10:48 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-17 10:58 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-18 14:35 ` LDD3 pitfalls (was Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures) Stefan Richter
2007-08-20 13:28 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-17 22:14 ` [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 5:04 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 10:35 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-16 19:48 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-17 0:02 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 2:04 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-17 2:13 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 2:31 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 5:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 5:32 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 5:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 8:28 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 14:48 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-08-16 16:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-16 19:55 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-16 20:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-17 1:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 1:28 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 5:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 2:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-17 3:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-17 3:53 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-17 6:26 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 8:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 9:14 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 9:31 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 10:55 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 12:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-17 13:36 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-17 18:50 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-17 18:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-17 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 19:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-17 20:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-20 13:15 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-20 13:32 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-20 13:38 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-20 22:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 5:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-21 7:04 ` David Miller
2007-08-21 13:50 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-21 14:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 16:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-21 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-09 18:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-09 18:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-10 10:56 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 11:15 ` Herbert Xu
2007-09-10 12:22 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-10 13:38 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 14:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-10 16:46 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 19:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-10 18:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 23:19 ` [PATCH] Document non-semantics of atomic_read() and atomic_set() Chris Snook
2007-09-10 23:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-11 19:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 14:51 ` [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-10 14:38 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 17:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-17 11:08 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-17 22:09 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 17:41 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 18:38 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 23:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 23:55 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18 0:04 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-18 1:56 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18 2:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-18 3:33 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18 5:18 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-18 13:20 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-09-10 18:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-10 21:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 21:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-11 2:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 21:08 ` Luck, Tony
2007-08-16 19:55 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-16 18:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 20:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 3:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-16 19:39 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 2:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-24 12:50 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-24 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-24 20:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-16 3:37 ` Bill Fink
2007-08-16 5:20 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 5:57 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 9:25 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 21:00 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-17 4:32 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 22:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-18 14:42 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-16 20:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 22:40 ` David Schwartz [this message]
2007-08-17 4:36 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 4:24 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 22:34 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:59 ` Christoph Lameter
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