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From: Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
Cc: Vitor Soares <Vitor.Soares@synopsys.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
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	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 2/7] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:24:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR07MB278357B74A7D7E31EB109DC5CAC00@MWHPR07MB2783.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180227211302.26f76427@bbrezillon>

Hi Boris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Brezillon [mailto:boris.brezillon@bootlin.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:13 PM
> To: Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>
> Cc: Vitor Soares <Vitor.Soares@synopsys.com>; Boris Brezillon
> <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>; Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-
> dreams.de>; linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org; Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>;
> linux-doc@vger.kernel.org; Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>;
> Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>; Alan Douglas
> <adouglas@cadence.com>; Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>; Damian
> Kos <dkos@cadence.com>; Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>;
> Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>; Suresh Punnoose
> <sureshp@cadence.com>; Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-
> electrons.com>; Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>; Rob Herring
> <robh+dt@kernel.org>; Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>; Mark Rutland
> <mark.rutland@arm.com>; Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>;
> Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>; devicetree@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org; Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>; Linus
> Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
> 
> EXTERNAL MAIL
> 
> 
> Hi Przemek,
> 
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 16:43:27 +0000
> Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > >> Either important is the SETDASA for declared I3C devices. So the
> > > >> DAA process should start by send an SETDASA and them ENTDAA
> CCC
> > > command.
> > > > My understanding was that SETDASA was not mandatory, and was
> only
> > > > useful when one wants to assign a specific dynamic address to a
> > > > slave that has a static address (which is again not mandatory).
> > > > I've tested it, and even devices with a static address participate
> > > > to the DAA procedure if they've not been assigned a dynamic
> > > > address yet, so I don't see the need for this SETDASA step if you
> > > > don't need to assign a particular dynamic address to the device.
> > > >
> > > > Could you tell me why you think SETDASA is required?
> > >
> > > Yes, you are right... But in my opinion it is required as it does
> > > part of DAA process.
> >
> > SETDASA is simply faster than ENTDAA, but only if there is no need to
> > collect BCR/DCR/PID of such devices. I think most applications would
> > like to have them as an status information so  after all ENTDAA can be
> > regarded as an generic approach (unless I'm mistaken).
> 
> Actually, we could retrieve BCR/DCR/PID (and all other relevant
> information, like MAXDS) even with the SETDASA approach. We just need to
> send the according CCC commands after SETDASA.
> 
I agree, what I meant by "SETDASA is simply faster than ENTDAA, but only if there is no need to collect BCR/DCR/PID of such devices." Is that it is faster than DAA but only if not followed by GET CCC commands to gather BCR/DCR/PID. I think we are on the same page here.

> But that's also my understanding that ENTDAA should always work, and
> SETDASA usage is only needed if you want to reserve a dynamic address
> and assign it to a device before DAA takes place. This way you can enforce
> the device priority (WRT IBIs). But honestly, that's the only use case I can
> think of, and to me, it sounds like an advanced feature we may want to
> support at some point, but don't need in the initial implementation.
>
Still ENTDAA seems to be sufficient for IBI prioritization but I can imagine some use cases where people would like to use it for such purposes. Note that SETDASA is applicable only for devices with SA so it is self-explanatory that it cannot be considered as utility to define priorities for all devices before ENTDAA. 

> --
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Regards,
Przemek

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-27 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-14 15:16 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add the I3C subsystem Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] i2c: Export of_i2c_get_board_info() Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure Boris Brezillon
2017-12-17 22:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2017-12-18  8:37     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-18 18:22       ` Randy Dunlap
2017-12-19  8:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-19  9:09     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-19  9:13       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-19  9:21         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-19  9:28           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-19  9:36             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-02-21 14:22               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-21 14:38                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-02-23 16:28   ` Vitor Soares
2018-02-23 16:56   ` Vitor Soares
2018-02-23 20:30     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-26 18:58       ` Vitor Soares
2018-02-26 20:36         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-26 20:40           ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-26 21:38             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-27 16:03           ` Vitor Soares
2018-02-27 16:43             ` Przemyslaw Sroka
2018-02-27 17:06               ` Przemyslaw Sroka
2018-02-27 20:25                 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-27 20:13               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-27 20:24                 ` Przemyslaw Sroka [this message]
2018-02-27 21:14                   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-27 19:57             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-02-23 22:45     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] docs: driver-api: Add I3C documentation Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] i3c: Add sysfs ABI spec Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] dt-bindings: i3c: Document core bindings Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 16:24   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-12-14 21:47   ` Peter Rosin
2017-12-16 17:20   ` Rob Herring
2017-12-16 18:35     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-20 18:06       ` Rob Herring
2017-12-21 10:41         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-26 18:29           ` Rob Herring
2018-01-07 14:14             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-01-22  8:47               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] i3c: master: Add driver for Cadence IP Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 19:54   ` Randy Dunlap
2017-12-14 20:17     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 20:25       ` Randy Dunlap
2017-12-14 20:44         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-14 22:10           ` Randy Dunlap
2017-12-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] dt-bindings: i3c: Document Cadence I3C master bindings Boris Brezillon
2018-02-22 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add the I3C subsystem Vitor Soares

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