From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:08:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:07:53 -0400 Received: from d12lmsgate-2.de.ibm.com ([195.212.91.200]:37087 "EHLO d12lmsgate-2.de.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:07:39 -0400 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: lcs ethernet driver source To: David Woodhouse Cc: Alan Cox , Arjan van de Ven , X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 (Intl) 21 March 2000 Message-ID: From: "Ulrich Weigand" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:58:53 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12ML028/12/M/IBM(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 30/08/2001 18:58:56 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Woodhouse wrote: >Erm, Linux on S/390 runs as a virtual machine, doesn't it? Does a lack of >network drivers not render it completely useless? Well, you're right that without network connection, there's not much useful you can do. However, LCS and QETH are not the only options; you can also use a CTC or IUCV network interface (and those drivers *are* open source and in the tree); there's also a third-party open source driver to access CLAW network devices (not in the official tree, but e.g. part of the SuSE kernel). Especially in a virtual machine, you can simply define a virtual CTC or IUCV connection and access your network via those devices. If you are running Linux native on the S/390 (not in a virtual machine) and have *only* physical LCS or QETH devices, you must use the binary-only modules; but this doesn't appear to be fundamentally different from other devices where only binary drivers exist ... Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best Regards Ulrich Weigand -- Dr. Ulrich Weigand Linux for S/390 Design & Development IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH, Schoenaicher Str. 220, 71032 Boeblingen Phone: +49-7031/16-3727 --- Email: Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com