From: "hasegawa-hitomi@fujitsu.com" <hasegawa-hitomi@fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"'fweisbec@gmail.com'" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"'mingo@kernel.org'" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"'tglx@linutronix.de'" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"'juri.lelli@redhat.com'" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
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Cc: "'dietmar.eggemann@arm.com'" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"'rostedt@goodmis.org'" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"'bsegall@google.com'" <bsegall@google.com>,
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"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Utime and stime are less when getrusage (RUSAGE_THREAD) is executed on a tickless CPU.
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:27:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <OSBPR01MB21839A0A9B2464953E1A316DEB0F9@OSBPR01MB2183.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210521084147.GG3672@suse.de>
Hi Mel, Peter, and Frederic
I'm sorry for the late reply.
> I don't think it's a straight-forward issue. I know we've had to deal with
> bugs in the past where the overhead of getting CPU usage statistics was
> high enough to dominate workloads that had self-monitoring capabilities to
> the extent the self-monitoring was counter-productive. It was particularly
> problematic when self-monitoring was being activated to find the source
> of a slowdown. I tend to agree with Peter here that the fix may be worse
> than the problem ultimately where workloads are not necessarily willing
> to pay the cost of accuracy and as he pointed out already, it's expected
> nohz_full tasks are avoiding syscalls as much as possible.
I understand that the use of syscall should be avoided as much as possible.
However, I think it is necessary to get accurate utime and stime
for performance tuning in nohz_full.
For example, how about introducing a new procfs entry or kernel configuration
so that the RUSAGE_THREAD process can switch the execution of
task_sched_runtime()? That way, It can leave it to the user to decide
whether to take performance or correctness.
Thanks.
Hitomi Hasegawa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-16 2:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-12 3:28 Utime and stime are less when getrusage (RUSAGE_THREAD) is executed on a tickless CPU hasegawa-hitomi
2021-05-18 7:59 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-05-18 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-19 6:30 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-05-19 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-19 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-21 6:40 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-05-21 8:41 ` Mel Gorman
2021-06-16 2:27 ` hasegawa-hitomi [this message]
2021-06-16 12:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-06-16 12:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-06-22 6:49 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-06-28 2:36 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-06-28 14:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-07-21 8:24 ` hasegawa-hitomi
2021-08-31 4:18 ` hasegawa-hitomi
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