From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271699AbTHRMWs (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:22:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271701AbTHRMWs (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:22:48 -0400 Received: from delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl ([213.192.72.1]:27570 "EHLO delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271699AbTHRMWo (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:22:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:22:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" To: Vojtech Pavlik cc: Jamie Lokier , Andries Brouwer , Neil Brown , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Input issues - key down with no key up In-Reply-To: <20030817215436.GA24933@ucw.cz> Message-ID: Organization: Technical University of Gdansk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > What are the known problems with mode #3, then? > > It's broken on many keyboards (on some only slightly, like some keys not > working properly). Other (special, either unix workstation or point of > sale) keyboards need it to work properly. IIRC, OSF/1 running on later Alphas with a PS/2 keyboard interface (earlier oned had an LK201 one) uses mode #3. I can't comment on the VMS. > > That is, why doesn't everyone use it and why haven't they always used it? > > Because old AT keyboards didn't support it. Because the XT keyboard > didn't support it. Because history sticks. Since the 8042+keyboard combo supports a PC/XT compatibility mode there was no incentive -- why bother modifying software if the hardware works with the old one? Even if that sucks. > > For that matter, what does Windows use? > > Translated Set 2. Actually an emulated XT keyboard. For mode #3 explicit handling for hot-plugging would be required -- I guess the change would be much too intrusive. And untranslated mode #2 is nearly the same as an emulated PC/XT keyboard: codes are different and the release bit is replaced by the release code, but the multibyte mess for PS/2-specific keys remains -- no gain at all. -- + Maciej W. Rozycki, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland + +--------------------------------------------------------------+ + e-mail: macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl, PGP key available +