From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
Pascal Schmidt <der.eremit@email.de>,
Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:18:35 +0200 (MEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0309131614550.2634-100000@vervain.sonytel.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F6224C6.1020305@techsource.com>
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Timothy Miller wrote:
> David Schwartz wrote:
> You're stuck thinking about "law" and "rules". I'm thinking instead
> about "honor".
Indeed. The GPL may not be perfect, but IMHO the GPL is the only way to make
sure everyone plays the game according to the rules. I.e. I give you something,
you can use it, but please play according to the rules of fair play.
BSD may look OK, but it doesn't protect against people who don't (want to) play
according to the rules.
> The point of divergence is with regard to modules and the symbol
> restrictions for non-GPL drivers. Here is a gray area where the GPL may
> not apply really. These gray areas are where ethics and honor must come
> into play.
I consider binary-only modules some kind of loophole to avoid playing according
to the rules of fair play.
Unfortunately it seems to be almost impossible to design a license that forces
you to play according to the rules of fair play, and doesn't have any
loopholes or grey areas.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <rtHg.3n0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <rK5y.1xN.25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-03 18:42 ` Driver Model Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-03 19:49 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-03 22:41 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-03 23:11 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-03 23:33 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-04 1:38 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-04 3:01 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-04 14:21 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 14:59 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Timothy Miller
2003-09-10 20:34 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-12 19:55 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-13 14:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2003-09-13 17:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-10 23:35 ` James Clark
2003-09-04 1:37 ` Driver Model Andre Hedrick
[not found] <uess.1w0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 0:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 5:38 ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 1:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 2:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:42 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 3:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 4:37 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 21:40 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 8:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14 2:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42 ` David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30 0:10 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 1:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-14 1:16 ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-09-15 15:26 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 9:08 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13 9:49 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 14:37 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13 17:16 ` Alan Cox
[not found] <vpYm.1Bn.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <vq84.1P5.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-13 21:43 ` Pascal Schmidt
[not found] <fa.fq1hscm.1b7ai1k@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n3hqp6f.1rkg0ob@ifi.uio.no>
2003-09-14 4:39 ` walt
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