* 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry
@ 2005-01-10 13:03 Peter Daum
2005-01-10 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Daum @ 2005-01-10 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx"
has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs).
Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by
3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to keep the /proc-entries at least for a
transition period until other tools have been adjusted?
Regards,
Peter Daum
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 13:03 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry Peter Daum @ 2005-01-10 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig 2005-01-10 13:56 ` Peter Daum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2005-01-10 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Daum; +Cc: linux-kernel On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 02:03:32PM +0100, Peter Daum wrote: > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated tools from their website. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig @ 2005-01-10 13:56 ` Peter Daum 2005-01-10 16:45 ` Andrey Klochko ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Peter Daum @ 2005-01-10 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christoph Hellwig; +Cc: linux-kernel On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 02:03:32PM +0100, Peter Daum wrote: > > > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. > > The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > tools from their website. Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of "www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* RE: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 13:56 ` Peter Daum @ 2005-01-10 16:45 ` Andrey Klochko 2005-01-10 17:21 ` Ricky Beam 2005-01-19 11:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Andrey Klochko @ 2005-01-10 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Peter Daum', 'Christoph Hellwig'; +Cc: linux-kernel Did you try "Download 'In Engineering Phase' Software" link? Andrey -----Original Message----- From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Peter Daum Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:57 AM To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 02:03:32PM +0100, Peter Daum wrote: > > > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. > > The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > tools from their website. Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of "www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 13:56 ` Peter Daum 2005-01-10 16:45 ` Andrey Klochko @ 2005-01-10 17:21 ` Ricky Beam 2005-01-17 3:52 ` Chris Caputo 2005-01-19 11:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Ricky Beam @ 2005-01-10 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Daum; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mail List On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Peter Daum wrote: >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated >> tools from their website. > >Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of >"www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. Yeap. The "idiot" removed the proc interface from the driver before publishing the updated tools -- and I said so at the time. At the time the interface was removed, the new tools weren't available - period. They are still "beta" today (several months later.) Just put the procfs code back in the driver in your local tree and walk away. That's what I did -- but it doesn't look like I commited it to any BK tree :-( (and that box is *ahem* powered off) --Ricky ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 17:21 ` Ricky Beam @ 2005-01-17 3:52 ` Chris Caputo 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Chris Caputo @ 2005-01-17 3:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ricky Beam; +Cc: Peter Daum, Linux Kernel Mail List On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Ricky Beam wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Peter Daum wrote: > >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >> The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > >> tools from their website. > > > >Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of > >"www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. > > Yeap. The "idiot" removed the proc interface from the driver before > publishing the updated tools -- and I said so at the time. At the time > the interface was removed, the new tools weren't available - period. They > are still "beta" today (several months later.) > > Just put the procfs code back in the driver in your local tree and > walk away. That's what I did -- but it doesn't look like I commited > it to any BK tree :-( (and that box is *ahem* powered off) Or just grab the latest (version 9.1.5.2) 3dm and tw_cli software from the 3ware web site. These may not be listed as being for your version of the card, but they will work with the new driver. Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-10 13:56 ` Peter Daum 2005-01-10 16:45 ` Andrey Klochko 2005-01-10 17:21 ` Ricky Beam @ 2005-01-19 11:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2005-01-19 12:33 ` Peter Daum 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2005-01-19 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adam Radford; +Cc: Peter Daum, linux-kernel > > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > > > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > > > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > > > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. > > > > The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > > tools from their website. > > Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of > "www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. It's there just a little hidden. Adam, any chance the new managment tools could be placed more promimently on the website? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-19 11:09 ` Christoph Hellwig @ 2005-01-19 12:33 ` Peter Daum 2005-01-20 2:23 ` Jason L Tibbitts III 2005-02-09 8:41 ` Peter Daum 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Peter Daum @ 2005-01-19 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Adam Radford On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > > > > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > > > > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > > > > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. > > > > > > The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > > > tools from their website. > > > > Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of > > "www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. > > It's there just a little hidden. Adam, any chance the new managment tools > could be placed more promimently on the website? I guess you mean "3ware CLI (version 2.00.00.042+)"? If this is meant to replace all the other versions on the website, then the presentation is definitely "suboptimal", because the only way to get there is to explicitly request "experimental" software for the "9000 series" which is kind of strange if you're just looking for basic functionality for other controllers. At least on my 8506-controllers there are also some minor problems (e.g. "info" doesn't work during a verify) which I thought was due to the fact that the program is intended exclusively for 9000-controllers. Regards, Peter Daum ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-19 12:33 ` Peter Daum @ 2005-01-20 2:23 ` Jason L Tibbitts III 2005-01-20 4:38 ` Kyle Moffett 2005-02-09 8:41 ` Peter Daum 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Jason L Tibbitts III @ 2005-01-20 2:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Daum; +Cc: linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Adam Radford >>>>> "PD" == Peter Daum <gator@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes: PD> At least on my 8506-controllers there are also some minor problems PD> (e.g. "info" doesn't work during a verify) which I thought was due PD> to the fact that the program is intended exclusively for PD> 9000-controllers. You should report the problems you find to them. They do indicate (in the knowledge base on their web site) that you're going to need the in-engineering files to run on the latest kernels. It's only recently that the newer tools acquired the ability to control older controllers. According to a recent post from a 3ware employee on linux-ide-arrays, a proper release is expected in February. Obviously the best solution is that they just give us the source to these tools so that we can fix them ourselves. Knowing that isn't going to happen I'm happy they're at least giving us something while they catch up with the speed of kernel progress. I can verify the fact that info is busted when the controller is verifying the array; I'll gather some more info and pass this on to 3ware. - J< ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-20 2:23 ` Jason L Tibbitts III @ 2005-01-20 4:38 ` Kyle Moffett [not found] ` <ufais5s4sdk.fsf@epithumia.math.uh.edu> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Kyle Moffett @ 2005-01-20 4:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jason L Tibbitts III Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Adam Radford, Peter Daum, linux-kernel On Jan 19, 2005, at 21:23, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>> "PD" == Peter Daum <gator@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes: > You should report the problems you find to them. They do indicate (in > the knowledge base on their web site) that you're going to need the > in-engineering files to run on the latest kernels. It's only recently > that the newer tools acquired the ability to control older > controllers. > > According to a recent post from a 3ware employee on linux-ide-arrays, > a proper release is expected in February. Obviously the best solution > is that they just give us the source to these tools so that we can fix > them ourselves. Knowing that isn't going to happen I'm happy they're > at least giving us something while they catch up with the speed of > kernel progress. > > I can verify the fact that info is busted when the controller is > verifying the array; I'll gather some more info and pass this on to > 3ware. We have some 3ware 7000 ATA-RAID controllers that I've tested with various versions of the tools trying to get them to work: +---------------+--------------- +--------------------------------------------+ | Kernel | CLI Utility | Functionality/Limitations | +---------------+--------------- +--------------------------------------------+ | | 7000 - Stable | Works great, everything OK (Of course :-D) | | Debian 2.4.28 | | | | | 7000 - In-Eng | [N/A] No such tool exists! | +---------------+--------------- +--------------------------------------------+ | | 7000 - Stable | Works ok, except some operations fail with | | | | unusual errors, and the info stuff doesn't | | | | really work properly | | | | | | | 7000 - In-Eng | [N/A] No such tool exists! | | | | | | | 9000 - Stable | Works great, everything OK, although some | | | | operations have status errors, though they | | | | still function as expected. This one has | | Debian 2.6.8 | | an interesting new interface that I like. | | | | | | | 9000 - In-Eng | This one lacks the new interface that is | | | | present in the tested release, which is | | | | kind of weird, given that it is a much | | | | newer version. It also appears to work | | | | great on the 3ware 7000 card, but without | | | | the weird errors that plagued the stable | | | | tool. This looks promising, but I kinda | | | | liked the interface of the 9000 tool. | +---------------+--------------- +--------------------------------------------+ Cheers, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++: a18 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L++++(+++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP+++ t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h!*()>++$ r !y?(-) ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry [not found] ` <ufais5s4sdk.fsf@epithumia.math.uh.edu> @ 2005-01-20 4:57 ` Kyle Moffett 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kyle Moffett @ 2005-01-20 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jason L Tibbitts III; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List On Jan 19, 2005, at 23:49, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > I'm not sure why you indicate that no in-engineering toolset exists > for the 7000 cards. It works fine on my 7810 and 7500-8 cards, as > well as a bunch of 8506-4LP cards and of course the 9500S-4LP cards I > have. I don't think it would work on my 6800 cards, but those are > just running JBOD with software RAID so there wouldn't be much point. It could be that I just completely missed it, but I went to the 3ware site and chose "7000". There was not a "CLI" item, so I assumed there wasn't a specific CLI just for the 7000s. I later, however, found that the 9000 CLIs (Normal and In-Eng) worked fine, so I never looked for any others, such as 8000 or 8500 CLIs. I may have made a mistake, but I couldn't find a CLI in the "In Engineering"->"7000" section, and I had a working solution, so I didn't try elsewhere. Cheers, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++: a18 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L++++(+++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP+++ t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h!*()>++$ r !y?(-) ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-01-19 12:33 ` Peter Daum 2005-01-20 2:23 ` Jason L Tibbitts III @ 2005-02-09 8:41 ` Peter Daum 2005-02-09 9:57 ` Peter Daum 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Peter Daum @ 2005-02-09 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Adam Radford ... a little addendum: while the mentioned "experimental" tw_cli (2.00.00.042) provides at least basic functionality for some controllers (I mostly use 8506-8) it does not work at all with 8506-4 controllers (It just complains "No controller found"). Regards, Peter Daum On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Peter Daum wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > > > > It looks like in the 3ware driver the procfs entry "/proc/scsi/3w-xxxx" > > > > > has been removed (or actually moved to sysfs). > > > > > Unfortunately, this breaks all the (binary only )-: tools provided by > > > > > 3ware, which are indispensable for system maintenance. > > > > > > > > The change came from the driver maintainer at 3ware. Get the updated > > > > tools from their website. > > > > > > Which website do you mean? The programs in the download section of > > > "www.3ware.com" are just the ones that don't work anymore. > > > > It's there just a little hidden. Adam, any chance the new managment tools > > could be placed more promimently on the website? > > I guess you mean "3ware CLI (version 2.00.00.042+)"? > > If this is meant to replace all the other versions on the website, then > the presentation is definitely "suboptimal", because the only way to get > there is to explicitly request "experimental" software for the "9000 > series" which is kind of strange if you're just looking for basic > functionality for other controllers. > > At least on my 8506-controllers there are also some minor problems (e.g. > "info" doesn't work during a verify) which I thought was due to the fact > that the program is intended exclusively for 9000-controllers. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: 3ware driver (3w-xxxx) in 2.6.10: procfs entry 2005-02-09 8:41 ` Peter Daum @ 2005-02-09 9:57 ` Peter Daum 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Peter Daum @ 2005-02-09 9:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Adam Radford On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Peter Daum wrote: > it does not work at all with 8506-4 controllers (It just complains Oops: sorry for the noise - my error ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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