From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264072AbTKJTMx (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264073AbTKJTMx (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:53 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:22803 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264072AbTKJTMu (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:12:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:01:59 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: Linus Torvalds cc: John Bradford , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.9test9-mm1 and DAO ATAPI cd-burning corrupt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > > I mentioned ide tapes and ZIP drives, Linus didn't mention how one gets > > around those. > > The thing is, the non-ide-scsi interfaces really _should_ work. The fact > is, SG_IO ("send a SCSI command") just _works_. > > However, right now only the CD-ROM driver exposes those commands. Why? > Because nobody has apparently cared enough about those theoretical IDE > tapes and ZIP drives. > > In other words, they seem to "exist" in the same sense that soubdblaster > CD-ROM users "exist". True in theory, but apparently only really useful > for theoretical arguments. I take it that if the IDE maintainer and you don't use a device it will not be supported in the future? There's nothing theoretical about ZIP drives and ATAPI tape drives, you can order them mail order or buy them at any computer show. And 2.4 ide-scsi seems to support them perfectly, or at least usefully, which is probably why there haven't been any complaints. I admit I can't understand why 2.6 supports old NICs and motherboard chipsets which haven't been made in five years, and then deliberately desupports devices which did work and which are available at computer stores and mail order today. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.