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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: ganesh.sittampalam@magd.ox.ac.uk,
	Virtual Memory problem report list
	<linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>,
	mingo@valerie.inf.elte.hu, Bill Hawes <whawes@star.net>,
	Alan Cox <number6@the-village.bc.nu>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com>
Subject: Re: Progress! was: Re: Yet more VM writable swap-cached pages
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:54:21 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980709174951.431E-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199807100042.BAA07833@dax.dcs.ed.ac.uk>



On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> with no rwe currently enabled.  Page flags are normal for a resident
> swap-cached anonymous page with no IO in flight.  The page count, 2, is
> also normal for a cached anonymous page.  The pte, 6a8042, is not normal
> at all.  It is marked non-present (the lowest bit is clear) but
> _PAGE_PROTNONE.  That changes everything.

Cool. This does indeed explain it.

The _PAGE_PROTNONE was a clever way to get the correct unreadability on an
x86, but I did indeed miss the fact that now a page can be marked
"present" as far as the Linux memory management is concerned, yet not be
writable by looking at _PAGE_RW. 

Your suggestion not only should fix this, but is also the RightThing(tm)
to do. 

It also explains why so few people saw this - PROT_NONE is not something
that is normally used.

>							  What are
> the implications for other architectures which organise their ptes
> differently?

Other architectures may have the same bug, but it's actually fairly
unlikely. Most other architectures tend to have a nicer way to do
PROT_NONE anyway, and the x86 thing is a hack (but a very nice hack,
because it leaves the mm layer completely unaware of the fact that the x86
page tables are fairly deficient in this area). 

So it's not a conceptual problem, it might just be something that needs to
be looked at. Certainly the alpha does not have this problem.

		Linus


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  reply	other threads:[~1998-07-09 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.95.980709184611.6873C-100000@fishy>
1998-07-10  0:42 ` Progress! was: Re: Yet more VM writable swap-cached pages Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-10  0:54   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
1998-07-20 11:16     ` Richard Henderson
1998-07-20 17:01       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <35A57732.A7B5DFF@star.net>
1998-07-10 13:34     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.95.980710021356.10100A-100000@fishy>
1998-07-10  1:26 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-07-10  2:18   ` Bill Hawes
1998-07-10  2:18     ` Linus Torvalds

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