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From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
Cc: andersen@codepoet.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Promise SATA driver GPL'd
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:28:26 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10307222219300.10927-100000@master.linux-ide.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307230512.h6N5CXQ10468@adam.yggdrasil.com>


To bad people do not see the lameness of GPL and the superior quality of
OSL.  The former forces the author to assign copyright to FSF to gain
legal services or write the check out of their own pocket.  The latter
provides a means to allow the author to feed the sharks and protect the
interest of the OSC.

GPL == Author pays legal costs regardless.
OSL == Provisions for legals to be recovered.

This is one of the reasons I quit publish GPL because the costs I have to
defend my works in the past are going to be heavy, and I am tired of
having stuff stolen.

So switching to OSL for the kernel as a whole is a no brainer.
Leaving it as GPL is a way to promote thieft.

Simple facts, and do not give a rip about arguements against OSL in favor
of GPL because they all are lose when it comes down to the issue of
defending the interest of the "author" and the OSC (open source community)

A vote for continuing GPL in the kernel is a promote and enable the
thieves on the world.  Narrow vision of a utopian stupidity without a
means to kick arse to defend the broader issues is ...

Adam I like you, and your politics and ideas of GPL suck. :-)

Cheers

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Adam J. Richter wrote:

> >> = Jeff Garzik
> >  = Erik Andersen
> 
> >> On a legal note, I would prefer that completely new drivers (i.e. no
> >> copied code from other sources) be licensing in the same way as
> >> libata.c.  Maintainer's preference in the end, of course, but I would
> >> like to strongly encourage following libata.c's example ;-)
> >
> >By that I assume you mean osl-1.1 like libata.c, rather than GPL
> >like ata_piix.c....  [...]
> 
> 	Just to clarify, the changes in
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/jgarzik/patchkits/2.6/2.6.0-test1-libata1.patch.gz
> appear to be covered by terms that amount of "your choice of osl-1.1
> OR GPL-2."  It is the permission to use the code under the terms
> of the GPL (or some other GPL compatible permissions) that allow
> code to be linked into a program that contains GPL'ed code, like
> the Linux kernel, assuming the Free Software Foundation's statements
> that osl-1.1 is GPL-incompatible are correct
> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html).  So, please remember
> to keep "or GPLv2" provision or something similar to keep your
> contribution GPL compatible.
> 
> 	I'm glad to see more serial ATA support now that SATA
> drives are becoming common, and I'm also looking forward to
> giving libata a whirl.  Thank you both for your contributions.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-23  5:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-23  5:12 Promise SATA driver GPL'd Adam J. Richter
2003-07-23  5:28 ` Andre Hedrick [this message]
2003-07-23  9:08   ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 10:12     ` Matthias Andree
2003-07-23 10:21       ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-23 11:47         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 11:54           ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-23 22:22           ` On "any later version" in GPL [Was: Re: Promise SATA driver GPL'd] Horst von Brand
2003-07-23 10:37       ` Promise SATA driver GPL'd Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 10:29     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 10:51       ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 11:43         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 12:17           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 12:32           ` Martin Diehl
2003-07-23 12:57             ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 19:08               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 19:19                 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 19:33                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 19:46                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 20:59                 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 22:22                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 22:40                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 22:35                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 23:02                         ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 23:08                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 23:33                             ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 23:45                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24  0:14                                 ` dacin
2003-07-24  0:23                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24  0:21                     ` David Schwartz
2003-07-24  0:21                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 13:23                       ` Jesse Pollard
2003-07-24 14:01                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-24 18:37                         ` David Schwartz
2003-07-23 22:32                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 22:46                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-23 23:13                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 10:40   ` Adam Sampson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-22 18:45 Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 19:07   ` Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 19:39     ` Samuel Flory
2003-07-22 20:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 21:39       ` Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 23:25         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-27  3:01         ` Nick Urbanik
2003-08-27  3:14           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-27  9:00             ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-27 11:51               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 20:57     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-23 13:20     ` Mark Watts
2003-07-23  1:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23  2:38   ` Shawn
2003-07-23 10:32   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 18:58     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 11:22       ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-13 13:34     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-13 14:24       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-15 10:17         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-25  3:44 ` Milan Roubal

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