From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> To: Daniel <ddickman@nyc.rr.com> Cc: Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: obsolete code must die Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:24:17 -0300 (BRST) [thread overview] Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106140018140.14934-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> (raw) In-Reply-To: <01a401c0f46b$20b932e0$480e6c42@almlba4sy7xn6x> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Daniel wrote: OK, after my earlier troll posting, lets go over Daniel's reasons point by point. Well actually, all of these points fit in one argument. > -- Getting rid of old code can help simplify the kernel. This means > less chance of bugs. > -- Simplifying the kernel means that it will be easier for newbies to > understand and perhaps contribute. > -- a simpler, cleaner kernel will also be of more use in an academic > environment. > -- a smaller kernel is easier to maintain and is easier to re-architect > should the need arise. Everything you propose to get rid of are DRIVERS. They do NOT complicate the core kernel, do NOT introduce bugs in the core kernel and have absolutely NOTHING to do with how simple or maintainable the core kernel is. All of the arguments you give above are irrelevant to the things you propose to have removed from the kernel. > -- If someone really needs support for this junk, they will always > have the option of using the 2.0.x, 2.2.x or 2.4.x series. They have that option NOW, but in the future people may no longer be interested in doing essential things like security updates or network protocol updates to older kernels. Also, forcing people to use these older kernels will only ADD to the maintenance problems of the Linux kernel, instead of making them less ... since then we'd have to release security and network protocol updates against more kernel versions. It would also make it impossible for people to combine new and old hardware in one machine. Think of ham radio operators or physics people who have their own home-brewn hardware for packet radio or data acquisition. It's not your arguments or the things you propose that make me think you're a troll. It's the fact that the things you propose are completely unrelated to the arguments you give for them ;) regards, Rik -- Virtual memory is like a game you can't win; However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose... http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ Send all your spam to aardvark@nl.linux.org (spam digging piggy)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-14 3:24 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106140018140.14934-100000@imladris.rielhome .conectiva> 2001-06-14 0:44 ` Daniel 2001-06-14 0:54 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 0:56 ` Jaswinder Singh 2001-06-14 1:00 ` Jeff Garzik [not found] ` <20010613204729.A18297@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net> 2001-06-14 1:05 ` Daniel Dickman 2001-06-14 1:09 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 1:20 ` Gary E. Miller 2001-06-14 1:08 ` Colonel 2001-06-13 22:23 ` Rafael Diniz 2001-06-15 19:45 ` Eric Hancock 2001-06-14 19:00 ` Mike A. Harris 2001-06-14 1:11 ` John Chris Wren 2001-06-14 1:13 ` Claudio Martins 2001-06-14 1:23 ` Justin Guyett 2001-06-14 1:51 ` Mohammad A. Haque 2001-06-14 1:55 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 3:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo 2001-06-14 1:58 ` D. Stimits 2001-06-14 2:22 ` Alan Olsen 2001-06-14 1:24 ` Robert Love 2001-06-14 1:32 ` Colonel 2001-06-14 1:45 ` Rainer Mager 2001-06-14 2:00 ` Download process for a "split kernel" (was: obsolete code must die) David Luyer 2001-06-14 2:30 ` Jaswinder Singh 2001-06-14 7:56 ` Daniel Phillips 2001-06-14 8:34 ` Alexander Viro 2001-06-14 16:25 ` Daniel Phillips 2001-06-14 17:21 ` Richard Gooch 2001-06-14 12:07 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 12:14 ` David Luyer 2001-06-14 12:18 ` Rob Landley 2001-06-14 7:56 ` obsolete code must die Alan Cox 2001-06-14 9:06 ` Ghozlane Toumi 2001-06-14 9:24 ` James Sutherland 2001-06-14 14:45 ` Michael Bacarella 2001-06-15 3:58 ` Michael Peddemors 2001-06-15 4:09 ` Joel Jaeggli 2001-06-15 11:51 ` Rogier Wolff 2001-06-14 1:41 ` David Luyer 2001-06-14 2:37 ` Tom Vier 2001-06-14 8:35 ` Bohdan Vlasyuk 2001-06-14 10:25 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz 2001-06-14 2:31 ` James Stevenson 2001-06-14 3:24 ` Rik van Riel [this message] 2001-06-14 3:48 ` Stephen Satchell 2001-06-14 4:26 ` Rik van Riel 2001-06-14 6:31 ` Russell King 2001-06-14 6:54 ` Daniel Dickman 2001-06-14 7:12 ` L. K. 2001-06-14 8:44 ` Luigi Genoni 2001-06-14 9:55 ` Thomas Pornin 2001-06-14 15:15 ` Brad Johnson 2001-06-14 18:57 ` Mike A. Harris 2001-06-15 3:48 ` Michael Peddemors 2001-06-15 14:21 ` Horst von Brand 2001-06-14 10:22 Heusden, Folkert van 2001-06-14 13:05 ` Nils Holland 2001-06-14 14:01 Jesse Pollard 2001-06-14 17:21 ` richard
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