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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.10pre VM changes: Potential race condition on swap code
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:05:36 -0300 (BRT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0109141456410.4708-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0109141229190.1372-100000@localhost.localdomain>



On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Hugh Dickins wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > CPU0			CPU1			CPU2
> > > > do_swap_page()		try_to_swap_out()	swapin_readahead()
> .....
> > > > BOOM.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, if we get additional references at valid_swaphandles() the above race
> > > > is NOT possible: we're guaranteed that any get_swap_page() will not find
> > > 
> > > Err I mean _will_ find the swap map entry used and not use it, then.
> > > 
> > > > the swap map entry used. See?
> 
> Yes, I see it now: had trouble with the line wrap!
> 
> Sure, that's one of the scenarios we were talking about, and getting
> additional references in valid_swaphandles will stop that particular
> race.
> 
> It won't stop the race with "bare" read_swap_cache_async (which can
> happen with swapoff, or with vm_swap_full deletion if multithreaded),

Could you please make a diagram of such a race ? 

> and won't stop the race when valid_swaphandles->swap_duplicate comes
> all between try_to_swap_out's get_swap_page and add_to_swap_cache.

Oh I see:

CPU0			CPU1

try_to_swap_out()	swapin readahead

get_swap_page()
			valid_swaphandles()
			swapduplicate()
add_to_swap_cache()
			add_to_swap_cache()

BOOM.

Is that what you mean ?

> The first of those is significantly less likely than swapin_readahead
> instance.  The second requires interrupt at the wrong moment: can
> certainly happen, but again less likely.
> 
> Adding back reference bumping in valid_swaphandles would reduce the
> likelihood of malign read_swap_cache_async/try_to_swap_out races,
> but please don't imagine it's the final fix.

Right. Now I see that the diagram I just wrote (thanks for making me
understand it :)) has been there forever. Ugh. 


  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-14 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-11 22:40 2.4.10pre VM changes: Potential race condition on swap code Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-11  0:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-13  1:35   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-13  7:15     ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-13 19:34       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-13 20:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-13 20:36           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-13 22:04             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-13 22:29               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-14 13:14                 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-14 11:45               ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-14 18:05                 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2001-09-14 19:44                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-14 21:55                   ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-14 21:10                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-15  0:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-15  6:29                         ` Hugh Dickins
2001-09-15 11:39                       ` [PATCH] Re: 2.4.10pre VM changes: Potential race Hugh Dickins
2001-09-17 18:49                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  4:00                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-22  9:19                     ` 2.4.10pre VM changes: Potential race condition on swap code Andrea Arcangeli

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