From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:45:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:45:32 -0400 Received: from perninha.conectiva.com.br ([200.250.58.156]:50447 "HELO perninha.conectiva.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:45:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:22:01 -0300 (BRT) From: Marcelo Tosatti To: Pavel Machek Cc: Alan Cox , "Eric W. Biederman" , Daniel Phillips , Rob Fuller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 In-Reply-To: <20010925005033.A137@bug.ucw.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > So my suggestion was to look at getting anonymous pages backed by what > > > amounts to a shared memory segment. In that vein. By using an extent > > > based data structure we can get the cost down under the current 8 bits > > > per page that we have for the swap counts, and make allocating swap > > > pages faster. And we want to cluster related swap pages anyway so > > > an extent based system is a natural fit. > > > > Much of this goes away if you get rid of both the swap and anonymous page > > special cases. Back anonymous pages with the "whoops everything I write here > > vanishes mysteriously" file system and swap with a swapfs > > What exactly is anonymous memory? I thought it is what you do when you > want to malloc(), but you want to back that up by swap, not /dev/null. Anonymous memory is memory which is not backed by a filesystem or a device. eg: malloc()ed memory, shmem, mmap(MAP_PRIVATE) on a file (which will create anonymous memory as soon as the program which did the mmap writes to the mapped memory (COW)), etc.