From: Armin Schindler <armin@melware.de>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailinglist <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.4] sys_select() return error on bad file
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:33:00 +0100 (MET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0403151111020.21744-100000@phoenix.one.melware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4054A213.6010402@colorfullife.com>
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Marcelo wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Anyway, I don't see how your proposal would do better performance?
> >> My patch just adds a new variable on the stack, which should not make any
> >> difference in performance. And later, it is the same if the new or another
> >> variable gets changed or checked.
> >
> >Curiosity: Does SuS/POSIX define behaviour for "all fds are closed" ?
> >
> >
> I'd interpret SuS that a closed fd is ready for reading and writing:
> From the select page:
> <<<
> A descriptor shall be considered ready for reading when a call to an
> input function with O_NONBLOCK clear would not block, whether or not the
> function would transfer data successfully. (The function might return
> data, an end-of-file indication, or an error other than one indicating
> that it is blocked, and in each of these cases the descriptor shall be
> considered ready for reading.)
> <<<
> read(fd,,) will return immediately with EBADF, thus the fd is ready.
>
> But that's a grey area, especially if you close the fd during the select
> call. For example HP UX just kills the current process if an fd that is
> polled is closed by overwriting it with dup2. I didn't test select, but
> I'd expect a similar behavior.
>
> Armin: did you compare the Linux behavior with other unices? Are there
> other unices that return EBADF for select() if all fds are closed?
No, I didn't compare yet, but I could not find any definition on that. It
really seems to be a "grey area".
> Attached is an untested proposal, against 2.6, but I'm not sure if it's
> really a good idea to change the current code - it might break existing
> apps.
This patch should also work on 2.4 and looks good to me, if "ready" should
be returned instead of EBADF. I don't think this would break existing
apps. Without such a patch, the app would sleep forever unless a signal
arrives. If any app depends on that behavior, I think it is bad coded.
Armin
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-14 18:18 [PATCH 2.4] sys_select() return error on bad file Manfred Spraul
2004-03-15 10:33 ` Armin Schindler [this message]
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2004-03-03 8:46 Armin Schindler
2004-03-04 7:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-03-04 9:20 ` Armin Schindler
2004-03-04 13:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-03-14 15:58 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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