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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:55:20 -0300 (BRST)
From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
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Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

> > The competition is there and it has names: BSD + ufs + softupdates,
> > Solaris + logging ufs. Read MTA mailing lists before obstructing.
>
> All of which are - not unsuprisingly - using a log. In fact
> Solaris logging ufs and ext3 are very similar ideas - adding a
> log to an existing fs.

Softupdates isn't using logging.  Furthermore, even
the journaling filesystems won't all guarantee that
the various parts of a rename() operation will all
be in the same transaction.

An MTA which relies on this is therefore Broken(tm).

cheers,

Rik
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