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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	<phillips@bonn-fries.net>, <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	<marcelo@conectiva.com.br>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:07:47 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0109061206020.31200-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <598034578.999792124@[10.132.112.53]>

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Alex Bligh - linux-kernel wrote:

> >> IE, in theory you could have half your memory free, but
> >> not be able to allocate a single 8k block. Nothing would cause
> >> cache, or InactiveDirty stuff to be written.
> >
> > Which is obviously not the right way to go. I guess we agree in that.
>
> Well, I agree that this is not desirable. I am not sure whether
> the right course is
>  (a) to avoid getting here,
>  (b) to do traditional page_launder() stuff, i.e. write stuff out,
>      and hope that fixes it
>  (c) to actively go defragment (Daniel P's prefered approach)
>  (d) some combination of the above.

On many systems, higher-order allocations are a really really
small fraction of the allocations, so ideally we'd have them
take the burden of memory fragmentation and won't punish the
normal allocations.

That pretty much rules out very strong forms of (a), things
like (b) and (c) are very possible to do and maybe even easy.

They also won't cause any overhead for normal allocations
since we'd only call them when needed.

regards,

Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-28  3:36 page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-28 18:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-28 18:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-30  1:36     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-03 14:57     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 15:26       ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:24         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 17:14           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:53             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 19:33             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 11:52             ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 12:31               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 12:32                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 12:53                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 13:03                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 13:18                       ` Kurt Garloff
2001-09-06 13:23                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 13:28                         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 13:29                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 16:45                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 16:57                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 17:22                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 19:25                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 19:45                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 19:52                                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-07  0:32                                     ` Kurt Garloff
2001-09-06 19:53                                   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-06 17:35                         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-06 13:10               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 13:23                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 13:54                   ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-06 14:39                     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 16:20                       ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-09-06 17:33                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 13:42                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 14:01                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 14:39                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 15:02                     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 15:07                       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0109061206020.31200-100000@imladris.rielhome.con ectiva>
2001-09-06 15:16                           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 15:10                     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 15:18                       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:34                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 17:32                           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:51                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 21:01                   ` [RFC] Defragmentation proposal: preventative maintenance and cleanup [LONG] Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  6:35                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07  8:58                       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  9:15                         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  9:28                           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07 21:38                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07 21:56                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07 12:30                 ` page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-04 16:27         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 17:13           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:56             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 17:54               ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 16:37                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 18:49                 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-04 19:39                   ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 20:25                     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 11:23                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 19:54                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-04 18:36                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 20:10                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-04 22:04                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-05  2:41                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 11:18                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 17:35             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-04 20:43           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-06 11:21             ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] <20010828180108Z16193-32383+2058@humbolt.nl.linux.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108281110540.8754-100000@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-08-28 19:14   ` Andi Kleen
2001-08-29 13:48     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-29 13:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-29 14:38         ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-28 20:01   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-28 20:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-28 20:56     ` David S. Miller
2001-09-27 23:14 Samium Gromoff

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