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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	"Van Maren, Kevin" <kevin.vanmaren@unisys.com>,
	<linux-ia64@linuxia64.org>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, <dhowells@redhat.com>, <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:28:39 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211080927050.4298-100000@home.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211080918220.4298-100000@home.transmeta.com>


On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> NOTE! I'm not saying the existing practice is necessarily a good tradeoff,
> and maybe we should just make sure to find all such cases and turn the
> read_lock() calls into read_lock_irqsave() and then make the rw-locks
> block readers on pending writers. But it's certainly more work and cause
> for subtler problems than just naively changing the rw implementation.

Actually, giving this som emore thought, I really suspect that the
simplest solution is to alloc a separate "fair_read_lock()", and paths
that need to care about fairness (and know they don't have the irq issue)  
can use that, slowly porting users over one by one...

		Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-08 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3FAD1088D4556046AEC48D80B47B478C0101F4E7@usslc-exch-4.slc.unisys.com>
2002-11-08  3:51 ` [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-08 17:13   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-08 17:28       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-11-08 17:38       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2002-11-08 17:43         ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-09  2:48         ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-09  4:36           ` William Lee Irwin III
     [not found]           ` <3DCFDAE9.6D359448@email.mot.com>
2002-11-11 19:22             ` David Mosberger
2002-11-12  1:39               ` your mail Rik van Riel
2002-11-08 17:34     ` [Linux-ia64] reader-writer livelock problem David Howells
2002-11-08 17:54       ` David Howells
2002-11-08 17:55       ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-11-08 17:41 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 18:05 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 19:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 19:26   ` David Mosberger
2002-11-08 20:17 Van Maren, Kevin
2002-11-08 20:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-08 20:24 Van Maren, Kevin

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