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From: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
To: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>,
	Pat Suwalski <pat@suwalski.net>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Marc Giger <gigerstyle@gmx.ch>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:26:44 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304241818400.1758-100000@pnote.perex-int.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030424130151.O3557@almesberger.net>

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Werner Almesberger wrote:

> Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote:
> > man amixer
> 
> Thanks. Yes, this indeed seems to map to some functionality that's
> understood by the kernel.
> 
> Strange. So does this mean that non-ALSA mixers should not work when
> using ALSA ?

We have emulation layer for non-ALSA mixers. This layer turns mute off 
automagically when volume is greater than zero. This layer doesn't work 
100%, because ALSA API is more extended and there is no way to map the 
extended features to limited API.

> Why do they seem to anyway ?

> Is the driver or hardware side of this mute flag just rarely implemented?

Most of PCI cards which are based on AC97 supports muting for analog i/o.

> Or is the kernel default not always "mute" ?

We mute almost everything. Today, we preset only some of digital controls
and we preserve volume settings for USB devices (might be changed, of 
course).

Our policy is: Don't allow to users to jump from skin when default volumes 
are invalid. Because we cannot determine the settings of an user amplifier
(analog path), the most safe is mute everything.

						Jaroslav

-----
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project, SuSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-24 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-23 16:23 [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 16:32 ` Marc Giger
2003-04-23 16:45 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 16:56   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:21     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 13:26       ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 17:26         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:45           ` Disconnect
2003-04-23 17:47           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 18:44             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:49           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 18:56           ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-23 22:17         ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-23 22:35           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24  2:19               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:29                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:34                   ` Ben Collins
2003-04-24  7:22                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:31                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:30                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-23 23:15             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 21:34     ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 21:36       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:14         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 22:18           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  0:11             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  0:43               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  1:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  1:18                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  1:22                   ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:11                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:40                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  3:37                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:47                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 13:16                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  7:14                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:38                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 13:49                             ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 14:08                               ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 14:34                                 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 15:04                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 15:23                                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 16:01                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 16:26                                         ` Jaroslav Kysela [this message]
2003-04-24 21:22                                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:03                                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-25 10:30                                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 21:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 23:55                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25  0:05                                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-25 10:41                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:04                                     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-25 17:44                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 17:59                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26  0:31                                           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 22:51       ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24  0:31 Ian Kumlien

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