From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261915AbTD2Dyy (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:54:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261917AbTD2Dyx (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:54:53 -0400 Received: from [66.62.77.7] ([66.62.77.7]:44772 "EHLO mail.gurulabs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261915AbTD2Dyw (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:54:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:07:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Dax Kelson X-X-Sender: dkelson@mooru.gurulabs.com To: Larry McVoy Cc: Alan Cox , Matthias Schniedermeyer , Ross Vandegrift , Chris Adams , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] In-Reply-To: <20030429000904.GA9653@work.bitmover.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Your complaint/observation about cloning/re-implementation is recognized. The counter claims are: 1. Unless patents are involved, it is perfectly LEGAL. 2. Virtually nothing is original to begin with. 3. The practice is hardly unique to Open Source developers. Your statement about being part of the community AND a business owner is recognized. Yes, this gives you insight that a pure hobbies Open Source developer might not have. Are you the only one? No. Does this mean everyone should accept everything you say without analysis? No. Moving back to the statements *you made* that started this whole thread. What exactly are you trying to say about an Open Source relation to software theft (warezing), Audio/Video theft, high asian piracy rates and DRM? These are all things you brought up, but I couldn't recognize any coherent statement here. Further, you also stated, "The open source community, in my opinion, is certainly a contributing factor in the emergence of the DMCA and DRM efforts." Please explain. Dax