From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262364AbTD3TsH (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:48:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262378AbTD3TsH (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:48:07 -0400 Received: from [66.62.77.7] ([66.62.77.7]:31177 "EHLO mail.gurulabs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262364AbTD3TsE (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:48:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:00:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Dax Kelson X-X-Sender: dkelson@mooru.gurulabs.com To: Larry McVoy Cc: "Downing, Thomas" , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] In-Reply-To: <20030430172107.GA25347@work.bitmover.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry, in your opening remarks you stated: "The open source community, in my opinion, is certainly a contributing factor in the emergence of the DMCA and DRM efforts." DMCA, clearly no, the time frame is wrong. Current --in production-- DRM. Clearly no. Current DRM is mostly all targeted to audio / video content protection. So, nothing that we have *today* is a response to Open Source. And speaking to your statement, Open Source wasn't the cause of it emerging in the first place. Is "Trusted Computing/Palladium" a response to Open Source apps reading file formats from commercial products? Maybe. Or is it an attempt (well, it isn't out yet) of MS to: 1. Finally "solve" the Windows virus problem? 2. Make developers pay a fee to MS get their app signed so it will run on Windows? 3. Solve software piracy? I hope it does solve software piracy. If users were confronted with the true cost of running the pirated commercial software installed on their windows boxes, they will likely look for alternatives like Open Source software. Dax Kelson