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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Prasanna S Panchamukhi <prasanna@in.ibm.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] hwbkpt: Hardware breakpoints (was Kwatch)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:11:00 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0703071127530.6624-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070307034932.09F5A1801C4@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Roland McGrath wrote:

> > > Yeah, I guess that's right.  It should still return NOTIFY_STOP when
> > > args->err has no other bits set, so notifiers aren't called with zero.
> > 
> > In practice that might not work.  On my machine, at least, reads of DR6
> > return ones in all the reserved bit positions.
> 
> Does that mean asm("mov %1,%%dr6; mov %%dr6,%0" : "=r" (mask) : "r" (0)); 
> puts in mask the set of reserved bits?  We could collect that value at CPU
> startup and mask it off args->err, then OR it back into vdr6.

That sounds like a rather fragile approach to avoiding a minimal amount of 
work.  Debug exceptions don't occur very often, and when they do it won't 
matter too much if we go through some extra notifier-chain callouts.


Back to a previous topic:

> > The actual guarantee I need is that nobody will switch_to() the task while
> > my routines are running.
>
> You can't get that.  It can always be woken for SIGKILL (which is a good
> thing).  What you are guaranteed is that if it does, it will never return
> to user mode.  So it has to be ok for switching in to use the bits in any
> intermediate state you might get them, meaning any possible garbage state
> is harmful only to user mode or is otherwise recoverable (worst case
> perhaps the exception handler has to know to ignore some traps).  This is
> already true with ptrace and ->thread.debugreg, as well as the normal user
> registers.  In your case, if you wanted to be paranoid you could clear
> TIF_DEBUG before you touch anything, and set it again only after you're
> done (with memory barriers as needed).

It turns out that this won't work correctly unless I use something
stronger, like a spinlock or RCU.  Either one seems like overkill.

Is there any way to find out from within the
switch_to_thread_hw_breakpoint routine whether the task is in this unusual
state?  (By which I mean the task is being debugged and the debugger
hasn't told it to start running.)  Would (tsk->exit_code == SIGKILL) work?  
If not, can we add a TIF_DEBUG_STOPPED flag?  Or should I just go with a 
spinlock?

Is SIGKILL the only way this can happen?

In a similar vein, I need a reliable way to know whether a task has gone 
through exit_thread().  If it has, then its hw_breakpoint area has been 
deallocated and a new one must not be allocated.  Will (tsk->flags & 
PF_EXITING) always be true once that happens?

Alan Stern


  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-07 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070207025008.1B11118005D@magilla.sf.frob.com>
2007-02-07 19:22 ` [PATCH] Kwatch: kernel watchpoints using CPU debug registers Alan Stern
2007-02-07 22:08   ` Bob Copeland
2007-02-09 10:21   ` Roland McGrath
2007-02-09 15:54     ` Alan Stern
2007-02-09 23:31       ` Roland McGrath
2007-02-10  4:32         ` Alan Stern
2007-02-18  3:03           ` Roland McGrath
2007-02-21 20:35         ` Alan Stern
2007-02-22 11:43           ` S. P. Prasanna
2007-02-23  2:19           ` Roland McGrath
2007-02-23 16:55             ` Alan Stern
2007-02-24  0:08               ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-02 17:19                 ` [RFC] hwbkpt: Hardware breakpoints (was Kwatch) Alan Stern
2007-03-05  7:01                   ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 13:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-05 16:16                       ` Alan Stern
2007-03-05 16:49                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-05 22:04                         ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 17:25                     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-06  3:13                       ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-06 15:23                         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-07  3:49                           ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-07 19:11                             ` Alan Stern [this message]
2007-03-09  6:52                               ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-09 18:40                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-13  8:00                                   ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-13 13:07                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-03-13 18:56                                     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-14  3:00                                       ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-14 19:11                                         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-28 21:39                                           ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-29 21:35                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-13 21:09                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-05-11 15:25                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-05-13 10:39                                               ` Roland McGrath
2007-05-14 15:42                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-14 21:25                                                   ` Roland McGrath
2007-05-16 19:03                                                     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-23  8:47                                                       ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-01 19:39                                                         ` Alan Stern
2007-06-14  6:48                                                           ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-19 20:35                                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-06-25 10:52                                                               ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-25 15:36                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-26 20:49                                                                   ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-27  3:26                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2007-06-27 21:04                                                                       ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-29  3:00                                                                         ` Alan Stern
2007-07-11  6:59                                                                           ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-28  3:02                                                                       ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-25 11:32                                                               ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-25 15:37                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-25 20:51                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-26 18:17                                                                   ` Roland McGrath
2007-06-27  2:43                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-17 20:39                                                 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-16 21:07                                         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 19:44                                         ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <20070628023100.E46AB4D05E6@magilla.localdomain>
2007-06-29  3:36 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-06 20:48 ` Alan Stern

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